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Re: Zeus - and some questions

Postby Ryla Grey » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:30 pm

darkwing wrote:One possibility, instead of the Order aspect of him, you might have met the Authoritative aspect, which can feel controlling but not necessarily orderly nor with the intent for maintaining order. I think we can feel this when encountering government officials, business leaders, academic professors, etc.


I really think you hit the nail on the head here! Yes, I would agree that I probably met the "authoritative aspect" of him. And yes, it certainly feels controlling to me. You're right, it isn't necessarily Orderly or with the intent to maintain Order. Thanks for putting it into a better perspective for me!

darkwing wrote:Another one, for the Popularity aspect, it might be due to the Seniority or Experienced, i.e. one who had done all of them and triumphed. We can even see this in famous academic professors who have die-hard followers, and any challenge to their theories is made into personal battles instead of the improvement of theories itself, e.g. Einstein vs Bohr and Hawking vs Susskind.


Great points again, thanks DW. :)


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Re: Zeus - and some questions

Postby Azure Echo » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:45 am

Zeus is quite an interesting Immortal, who is quite misunderstood, much like his wife, Hera. I did not find myths of Zeus flattering growing up. In fact, I didn't really care for most of the Greek Gods and Goddesses. Their stories were always so awful and they did terrible things, often to people who didn't deserve it. It's like they had no idea what the word "decency" meant, and I found it quite appalling. They were a bunch of bullies. Actually, the way you think of Zeus as being "popular" is the way I used to think of Aphrodite. I used to find her HORRIBLY unappealing, being made up of all the things that I abhorred about humanity. She was the pretty, dumb prom queen who didn't have much to offer to society but would be vehement the second attention was diverted away from her.

Then, I actually met many of these Greek Immortals, and I discovered everything I thought about them and everything the myths portrayed them as were all wrong. They were sincere, friendly, and most of all, approachable. While I find the myths intriguing from a historical and mythological perspective, spiritually they lack a LOT of worth and don't really help at all when it comes to actually connecting to an Immortal they are meant to depict. I think of them a lot like the Bible, passed down through generations, translated, and repurposed for political purposes. I know a lot of people like to raise ancient knowledge on a pedestal and think of it as the most perfect, unflawed thing, but I am not one of those people. All human knowledge is flawed. The only way you can truly understand something is working with it one on one. Another person's experiences just aren't going to cut it, especially for something like an Immortal who can appear to everyone differently. With an Immortal, you are forging a personal relationship.

Now that that's out of the way, I can talk about Zeus! I adore Zeus. I used to hate him, now I love him. He's like a patient, kind, but firm father. He seems quite strict and is INCREDIBLY intimidating, but he's a real softie. He pulls off the strong but silent leader type quite well. He helps you to understand power and the responsible application of it. He helps you understand yourself and how to become a more confident, responsible person. He does not give a crap about what anyone thinks about him, and that's one of the things I love most about him. Over the past few days, I've heard people talk about how "everybody hates Zeus" and it makes me feel so bad because I think he's quite intriguing. But Zeus right away lets me know that he doesn't care what other people say, he only cares that I'm taking the time to bond and connect to him. It was quite a sweet moment. I associate him strongly with energy and spiritual connections as well, because of his connection to storms and lightning, and it is energy that we are working with when we choose to speak to spirits. Zeus definitely isn't everyone's cup of tea, but for those who are willing to open themselves to him, they will find a caring and endearing ally. Once you've earned his respect, there isn't ANYTHING he won't do for you. As far as I'm concerned, he doesn't ask for a single thing in return. He just wants to be part of my life.

I've actually had straight up arguments with him before, and he didn't smite me or anything like that, which I know some people are afraid of and with good reason. Wen I first met him, he really liked to pull the whole "I'm a god" card. Like, if I'd doubt him, he'd be like, "are you really doubting a god?" For some people, they'd fall in line. I, being a rebel, would roll my eyes. Sometimes, it would escalate and I'd ask him to leave. Then he'd come back, apologize, and we'd pick it back up. Then there was also that one time he told me not to touch his beard... and I didn't listen... and he got upset... >.> Anyway, we had a rocky start but he's incredible. Easily one of my favorites, but then again, I think I'd say that about every Immortal. lol.

Btw, he's also quite handsome and incredibly attentive, for those who enjoy Immortal lovers. :)

But that's my experiences! Hope they help. <3


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Re: Zeus - and some questions

Postby Ryla Grey » Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:46 am

Azure Echo wrote:Zeus is quite an interesting Immortal, who is quite misunderstood, much like his wife, Hera. I did not find myths of Zeus flattering growing up. In fact, I didn't really care for most of the Greek Gods and Goddesses. Their stories were always so awful and they did terrible things, often to people who didn't deserve it. It's like they had no idea what the word "decency" meant, and I found it quite appalling. They were a bunch of bullies. Actually, the way you think of Zeus as being "popular" is the way I used to think of Aphrodite. I used to find her HORRIBLY unappealing, being made up of all the things that I abhorred about humanity. She was the pretty, dumb prom queen who didn't have much to offer to society but would be vehement the second attention was diverted away from her.

I feel the same, myths about Zeus are really not flattering at all! I'm the type that normally takes mythology on Immortals with a pinch of salt, because in the past for a couple of Immortals I actually skipped on reading their mythology and just went ahead to connect with them from a clean slate. I didn't want to be influenced by what was written about them. It worked out to become two of the strongest connections I have ever made. But to be honest, I'm really ashamed to say that I did the exact opposite with Zeus and have been judging him on his mythology. I totally want to kick myself for that! It's really not how I normally do things and why it happened with Zeus I don't know, but I am working at being more open to him and who he is.

Then, I actually met many of these Greek Immortals, and I discovered everything I thought about them and everything the myths portrayed them as were all wrong. They were sincere, friendly, and most of all, approachable. While I find the myths intriguing from a historical and mythological perspective, spiritually they lack a LOT of worth and don't really help at all when it comes to actually connecting to an Immortal they are meant to depict. I think of them a lot like the Bible, passed down through generations, translated, and repurposed for political purposes. I know a lot of people like to raise ancient knowledge on a pedestal and think of it as the most perfect, unflawed thing, but I am not one of those people. All human knowledge is flawed. The only way you can truly understand something is working with it one on one. Another person's experiences just aren't going to cut it, especially for something like an Immortal who can appear to everyone differently. With an Immortal, you are forging a personal relationship.

I completely agree with you, mythology on Immortals really doesn't help when it comes to connecting with them! When I mentioned two Immortals I connected to and skipped over reading their mythology, I went back after I connected with them just out of curiosity, and the myths on them really didn't reveal anything of what I experienced with them. This reflects what you said above - "the only way you can truly understand something is working with it one on one." I also agree when you say myths are more like the Bible, and yes, all human knowledge is flawed!

Now that that's out of the way, I can talk about Zeus! I adore Zeus. I used to hate him, now I love him. He's like a patient, kind, but firm father. He seems quite strict and is INCREDIBLY intimidating, but he's a real softie. He pulls off the strong but silent leader type quite well. He helps you to understand power and the responsible application of it. He helps you understand yourself and how to become a more confident, responsible person. He does not give a crap about what anyone thinks about him, and that's one of the things I love most about him. Over the past few days, I've heard people talk about how "everybody hates Zeus" and it makes me feel so bad because I think he's quite intriguing. But Zeus right away lets me know that he doesn't care what other people say, he only cares that I'm taking the time to bond and connect to him. It was quite a sweet moment. I associate him strongly with energy and spiritual connections as well, because of his connection to storms and lightning, and it is energy that we are working with when we choose to speak to spirits. Zeus definitely isn't everyone's cup of tea, but for those who are willing to open themselves to him, they will find a caring and endearing ally. Once you've earned his respect, there isn't ANYTHING he won't do for you. As far as I'm concerned, he doesn't ask for a single thing in return. He just wants to be part of my life.

I am a bit intimidated by him, yeah. But it's good to hear he is a softie, this makes me feel like he is more approachable than I imagined. Thank you for sharing more about Zeus, Azure! I really appreciate it.

I've actually had straight up arguments with him before, and he didn't smite me or anything like that, which I know some people are afraid of and with good reason. Wen I first met him, he really liked to pull the whole "I'm a god" card. Like, if I'd doubt him, he'd be like, "are you really doubting a god?" For some people, they'd fall in line. I, being a rebel, would roll my eyes. Sometimes, it would escalate and I'd ask him to leave. Then he'd come back, apologize, and we'd pick it back up. Then there was also that one time he told me not to touch his beard... and I didn't listen... and he got upset... >.> Anyway, we had a rocky start but he's incredible. Easily one of my favorites, but then again, I think I'd say that about every Immortal. lol.

LOL.. yes, I see myself doing an eye roll at something like that as well. XD I feel a bit better about my own wobbly start with Zeus, thank you Azure. I would like things to improve, and to experience him as he really is instead of what I perceived him to be.

That's so funny you touched his beard and he got upset, lol!! I think Immortals know where the intent is coming from, and that makes all the difference. ;)


Btw, he's also quite handsome and incredibly attentive, for those who enjoy Immortal lovers. :)

But that's my experiences! Hope they help. <3

I see you sneaking in a quick "he's also quite handsome" there, lol!

Thank you SO much for you reply here Azure, it does help. :) <3


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Re: Zeus - and some questions

Postby Azure Echo » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:01 am

Aww, it's my pleasure, Fera! <3 I'm so glad I was able to help out. <3 May you forge a strong friendship with him, like I know you will. He DOES have that firmness to him, at least for me, but try not to take it too seriously. He's really sweet in his intention. It's all about you, never about him, once you get along with him. Also, but of course I had to speak of his handsomeness XD He's quite something else, a veritable silver fox. ;)


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Re: Zeus - and some questions

Postby Ryla Grey » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:38 am

Thanks, Azure! <3

I am happy to report we seem to be starting over, because I just had a really tiny, yet lovely experience with him.

I was reading various topics on the forum just now, and this probably won't make much sense but out of the blue I heard "contemplate on your mortality" - I wasn't sure who it came from. I heard another comment a little while after that, and this time it really took me by surprise because it felt warm and gentle. At that point I realised it was Zeus. :)

So it wasn't WHAT he said, but rather HOW he said it. It's quite incredible what a little bit of warmth and gentleness behind words can do, it touched my heart and turned my perceptions on their head! I don't feel intimidated by him anymore. A small act made such a big difference for me! I really feel like we will be okay from this point on.


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Re: Zeus - and some questions

Postby Azure Echo » Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:31 am

Feranox wrote:Thanks, Azure! <3

I am happy to report we seem to be starting over, because I just had a really tiny, yet lovely experience with him.

I was reading various topics on the forum just now, and this probably won't make much sense but out of the blue I heard "contemplate on your mortality" - I wasn't sure who it came from. I heard another comment a little while after that, and this time it really took me by surprise because it felt warm and gentle. At that point I realised it was Zeus. :)

So it wasn't WHAT he said, but rather HOW he said it. It's quite incredible what a little bit of warmth and gentleness behind words can do, it touched my heart and turned my perceptions on their head! I don't feel intimidated by him anymore. A small act made such a big difference for me! I really feel like we will be okay from this point on.


Wow Fera! What a wonderful connection! I'm so glad I was able to help. :) It's all about letting go of those preconceptions. Many of us were raised in the west and were naturally exposed to the Greek gods in one form or another. We all sort of have these templates in our head of them, but when we open ourselves up and choose not to judge, they lead the way to a greater understanding. Sometimes, if they really want to communicate, they'll drag you along anyway. lol.

May you have wonderful experiences with Zeus! You're off to a great start. : )


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Re: Zeus - and some questions

Postby Marilee » Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:24 pm

Don't have any experience with Zeus, but want to add that I have always understood Thursday to be the day of Zeus and Jupiter. Monday is the day of the moon (Selene or Luna).

The following link seems to have good information from reputable sources.

https://www.crowl.org/Lawrence/time/days.html#sources



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Re: Zeus - and some questions

Postby Ryla Grey » Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:37 pm

Hi Marilee, thanks for the link.

I guess it's what feels most appropriate to each person and the Immortal they are working with, as far as what day is associated with them. Zeus could have known I'd check the CH Encyclopedia for his day, as I've done it before, after receiving a visit from an Immortal and for me personally, it synced with CH's associations. Not to say only CH is right, just for me it has made sense in the past and this time as well.


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