Succubus has duality. But what's their true nature?

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Succubus has duality. But what's their true nature?

Postby Willpower » Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:22 am

Are they initially an evil being who can be good, or actually good who can choose to be evil? What are they actually? And what they want to achieve from human keeper?

I read many article about them, most refer them as sexual spirit who just enjoying sex and get energy from the human victim, causing death is still doubtful. They feed off sexual energy, also fear, anxiety and other negative emotion. They also rape human victim wasn't that make them an evil beings in nature? That means they have potency to be feeder and parasite, right? So then, they just willing to assist us for the energy.

If that's true, then to have a relationship with one, then the keeper can't expect a lovely dovey treatment, because all they think is just pleasure, not love. Also as the keeper we need to subdue them before then, to polish their behavior. I read that they actually give love, affection and very protective. But I guess I might mistook the love and affection definition from what they believe, and it will only given to several human they fall in love to. Talking about the unbound, I could assume that they just see human as a food source.

All thoughts I share just came from my own opinion, they might be wrong.

So, what you guys think about them. I'm hoping answers from the keeper who's in, or ever had relationship with succubus, share your thoughts and experiences, I would like to read them. 1tu


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Re: Succubus has duality. But what's their true nature?

Postby darkwing dook » Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:25 pm

Willpower wrote:Are they initially an evil being who can be good, or actually good who can choose to be evil?

Mmh, a question of good or evil is complicated to answer. Short answer is that they're DA (dark art), thus ranging from benevolent to malevolent, like human : ) The idea that all succubi (and incubi) are evil is likely derived from religions which deem sexual acts as evil.


Willpower wrote:What are they actually?

One definition is:
They are entities who derive joyous pleasure in molesting men while they sleep. Those touched by Succubi usually tell of having erotic or "wet" dreams overnight. They can fall in love with their human victims and can become overly protective of them.

http://www.creepyhollows.com/faq/index. ... artlang=en

Others may have different definitions, and they may encompass various entities, e.g. qarinah, yakshini, hinoenma, etc.


Willpower wrote:And what they want to achieve from human keeper?

Mm I think this question is related to the one asked in this thread:
post717514.html#p717514


Willpower wrote:They also rape human victim wasn't that make them an evil beings in nature?

Mmm question is, is it really rape?
And this is not from the perspective of old conservative mentality, which deemed sexual act as sinful and those practicing it should receive corporal punishment, while the victims might receive lighter punishment.


Willpower wrote:If that's true, then to have a relationship with one, then the keeper can't expect a lovely dovey treatment, because all they think is just pleasure, not love.
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I read that they actually give love, affection and very protective. But I guess I might mistook the love and affection definition from what they believe, and it will only given to several human they fall in love to.

Well, what is love?
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Willpower wrote:Also as the keeper we need to subdue them before then, to polish their behavior.

Not really, especially not those conjured by reputable conjurers. The subdue method is usually for last resort, after the companions clearly cause problems and don't listen to house rules etc.


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Re: Succubus has duality. But what's their true nature?

Postby DiscreetGoddess » Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:12 am

I'd assume their true nature is similar to a human's mentality. Some are malevolent, where as others are benevolent. From my understanding DA refers to those beings with free will, LA refers to those who are benevolent no matter what, and BA is for those that are Malevolent (From which I've seen Creepy Hollows does not include BA beings in their shop/service(s). (Sorry if I get stuff wrong, this is my first couple of days here.)


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Re: Succubus has duality. But what's their true nature?

Postby OwlSpirit » Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:44 pm

My Incubus is both an entity and an unbound, but he's the most loveliest grumpy yet protective and tsundere Italian cinnamon roll you could ever meet. He has both good intentions and bad intentions as a human would, whom has been by my side since the beginning (I was around 16 at the time, but he didn't do anything sexual with me until I turned 18 (which is the legal drinking age over here in England, UK). I'm now 21 and he's still sticking around). He's very exclusive and has only ever given lover-like affection towards me. He sees my Western Blue Dragon spirit, "A", as a friend and somewhat of a sister despite their differences, so he'll give her friendly neck and nose rubs from time to time.

He's gentle with me and "A", but he is very defensive towards others who try to threaten our space, hence why he always gives the chat a death stare every time someone mentions sending over a male spirit/entity for a small visit lol. It's not because he hates them, it's just how he is.


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Re: Succubus has duality. But what's their true nature?

Postby Likes2Read » Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:20 pm

They are probably as varied as humans, who are also DA, and have individuals ranging from being caring about their partner's well-being to being utterly selfish and willing to trample on anyone to have what they want.

This is why I recommend working with a reputable conjurer, if one is inexperienced. No inexperienced person wants to accidentally bring on board an Ubi (or any other being) who would be selfish or downright dangerous. A good conjurer would never send a spirit like that out to the general public, and especially not to a newbie keeper. CH and other reputable shops would only send out Ubi and other spirits who would be safe for a keeper to work with.


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Re: Succubus has duality. But what's their true nature?

Postby MidnightMusings » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:13 pm

Willpower wrote:Are they initially an evil being who can be good, or actually good who can choose to be evil? What are they actually? And what they want to achieve from human keeper?


They were made evil cause from a christian perspective intercourse was evil. And since they love intimacy and are somewhat demons... well, that's ultimate evil! But they're the sweetest evil I ever knew^^ they are their own beings, a race that loves pleasure, seriously, who can take offense at this? Some want to experience human life and what it is like to be bound to a human, having a relationship that is more than their average romances in between. Some, although rare, do it for exchange. Give them your energy, be their food and they make you happy. There you have it :P

Willpower wrote:If that's true, then to have a relationship with one, then the keeper can't expect a lovely dovey treatment, because all they think is just pleasure, not love. Also as the keeper we need to subdue them before then, to polish their behavior. I read that they actually give love, affection and very protective. But I guess I might mistook the love and affection definition from what they believe, and it will only given to several human they fall in love to. Talking about the unbound, I could assume that they just see human as a food source.


I have four incubi in my family and they're the most wonderful thing that happened to me, of course, I mostly speak good of my spirit family haha 2qt but honestly, the triplet incubi with me border on BA but I never felt them like that. They are very protective and they cheer me up when I'm down, though they don't necessarily have to do this. If they have this very dark aspect, they haven't shown it to me yet. We have a healthy relationship, with mutual respect and care for each other. Yes, there's a lot of intimacy going on too, but we're more than that and besides, it's fun as hell 2wk The other incubus with me is a friend who has been with me through several lifetimes, being at my side to assist me with whatever I needed. I don't think he would always come back to me if he didn't care.


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