MYTHS, LIES & OTHER FABRICATIONS OF KNOWLEDGE

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Re: MYTHS, LIES & OTHER FABRICATIONS OF KNOWLEDGE

Postby gomeznsmith » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:44 am

Excellent post, thanks helped a lot. Although can I say that yellow font hurts my eyes... :(



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Re: MYTHS, LIES & OTHER FABRICATIONS OF KNOWLEDGE

Postby truckingon » Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:03 pm

Bump



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Re: MYTHS, LIES & OTHER FABRICATIONS OF KNOWLEDGE

Postby ASH-MDA » Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:04 pm

A GOOD REMINDER. INFO ON THIS THREAD WOULD CLEAR UP A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR SOME OF THE NEWBS.


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Re: MYTHS, LIES & OTHER FABRICATIONS OF KNOWLEDGE

Postby Likes2Read » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:38 pm

creepyhollows wrote:I WILL BE UPDATING THE THREAD IN THE POST BELOW THIS ONE ON-GOING TO KEEP ALL THE INFORMATION IN ONE PLACE, SO IF IT SAYS THE THREAD HAS BEEN UPDATED YOU WILL FIND THE NEW INFORMATION IN THE THREAD BELOW THIS ONE.

I thought it would be a good idea to start a thread to answer any questions someone might have about whether or not something they've heard from someone else or have read somewhere else about spirits & magic, is true.

How can you come by inaccurate information?
*Websites where the person writing the site is not fully acquainted with all the facts.

*Someone who believes themselves more powerful or knowledgeable than they really are.

*I can tell you that in doing this for years and the past 3 years with an open forum that you always get people once in awhile who fancy themselves an authority on the subject and intentionally or unintentionally start spreading information about spirits or magic that is completely untrue. You can bet on it happening about once a year. Usually the person befriends other people, seems like a nice person, suddenly they have crazy things to say out of the blue, the people don't know if it's true or not and it leads to stress for everyone involved. And as a side note I can tell you that usually people like this have already written in previously to us and have said other off-the-wall things that if known would discredit their reputation with the others they are trying to influence. I've seen this play out enough over the last 3 years I can write you a play-by-play handbook of how that happens. This has always been a danger in having PM access & email access on this board because people befriend each other and sometimes you have someone who purposefully befriends a number of people with the intent of gaining trust over time & later causing a lot of trouble. But you have to weigh the good & bad and try not to limit everyone for the sake of what these people who come around do.

And as another side note I should tell you that people who are drama-addicted, crazy, like to cause others turmoil through their own gossip, lies & bile about others are an occupational hazard in the paranormal. In fact, I'd venture to say that the paranormal community as a whole sees more than its share of these kinds of people than perhaps other groups. We have people who are just downright crazy and write in asking if we can burn up the people in the world they don't like, people who write us and pretend to know nothing about magic or spirits and then we find out they are telling others how powerful they are & how they know things, and people who just love to start stuff between others. The community here is about learning and becoming friends with one another is a byproduct of coming here and learning and as with all things in your life you should just approach personal relationships online with common sense & discretion. And you can read my post about things that can rob you of your journey for more information because I have seen one person completely destroy multiple people's faith & journey because of their behavior.


So this is the thread to clear the air. If you want to know if something is true or not true regarding spirits & magic this is the thread to ask. And if you don't feel comfortable asking on the thread you can write myself or Ash on PM or email and we'll post & answer for you.

I'd like to put forth that the people who fit the description that I bolded are an occupational hazard in life, too, not just in the paranormal. It happens in religious settings. It happens in secular settings. Depending on the drama-creator's personal interests or beliefs, they will glom onto some group -- church, civic association, HOA, non-profit, you name it -- and start stirring the pot with gossip and undermining. It doesn't surprise me that pot-stirrers can find the paranormal world attractive, particularly since this is a realm where we really do have to take others' words at face value at times. It's easy to stir the pot by pretending "Your spirit said this" or "Your entity did that", to people who are not yet well-versed in seeing and hearing their own spirits/entities. (Which is another reason why it's crucial to start building up one's own Sight and Hearing.)

Or, if they're delusional (in which case, they are more deserving of compassion than scorn), they're going to start thinking things like "I am [insert widely-known deity, saint, or demon here]!", perceiving conspiracy theories where none exist, and more. These are people who, I hope, can be directed to seek medical assistance over and above any paranormal solutions that they might also be applying to the issue. While I'm not ruling out the fact that they could be dealing with paranormal issues, they are likely to ALSO be dealing with medical issues that require non-paranormal attention.


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Re: MYTHS, LIES & OTHER FABRICATIONS OF KNOWLEDGE

Postby Magical Chocolate » Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:11 pm

I'm probably gonna sound like an idiot but I thought that not all the spirits were dead? i asked my dragon if he was alive and was indignant, saying that he was alive and lived in the astral realm. So I'm a little confused. How do we know if the spirits have lived and dead and the ones that are alive on other planes? :: :X



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Re: MYTHS, LIES & OTHER FABRICATIONS OF KNOWLEDGE

Postby creepyhollows » Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:36 pm

Spirits are the spirits of once, living beings who have passed and are now in spirit form.

Living entities can be from any of the 3 Realms and be with you. A living entity is still growing, living, and will eventually die themselves (unless they are Immortal).

If you have a spirit from a practitioner/conjurer you should verify with them what they deal with.


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Re: MYTHS, LIES & OTHER FABRICATIONS OF KNOWLEDGE

Postby Ashino Tsume roshi » Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:36 pm

creepyhollows wrote:Spirits are the spirits of once, living beings who have passed and are now in spirit form.

Living entities can be from any of the 3 Realms and be with you. A living entity is still growing, living, and will eventually die themselves (unless they are Immortal).

If you have a spirit from a practitioner/conjurer you should verify with them what they deal with.



I think that Magnolia's comment also brings up the need to emphasis proper and exact terminology. A "term" by definition has some exact or nearly exact definition within itself. And speaking for myself, I firmly believe that the amount of slang, "catch-words", and "catch phrases", ignore subtlety and existing-easy-to-understand definition.

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Re: MYTHS, LIES & OTHER FABRICATIONS OF KNOWLEDGE

Postby Samsara » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:01 am

Caiyros ZiJa wrote:
creepyhollows wrote:Spirits are the spirits of once, living beings who have passed and are now in spirit form.

Living entities can be from any of the 3 Realms and be with you. A living entity is still growing, living, and will eventually die themselves (unless they are Immortal).

If you have a spirit from a practitioner/conjurer you should verify with them what they deal with.



I think that Magnolia's comment also brings up the need to emphasis proper and exact terminology. A "term" by definition has some exact or nearly exact definition within itself. And speaking for myself, I firmly believe that the amount of slang, "catch-words", and "catch phrases", ignore subtlety and existing-easy-to-understand definition.

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Good idea but it's hard to separate as this is a spirit keeping forum rather than an entity keeping forum. So often times I find myself mixing the two at inopportune times. I just hope people understand what I am trying to say!

Plus it's too late to go back to all the post I mentioned spirit and really meant entity.


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Re: MYTHS, LIES & OTHER FABRICATIONS OF KNOWLEDGE

Postby Magical Chocolate » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:04 am

creepyhollows wrote:Spirits are the spirits of once, living beings who have passed and are now in spirit form.

Living entities can be from any of the 3 Realms and be with you. A living entity is still growing, living, and will eventually die themselves (unless they are Immortal).

If you have a spirit from a practitioner/conjurer you should verify with them what they deal with.


Oh thank you for clearing that up. So most of the spirits CH deals with are from the former category then, correct?



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Re: MYTHS, LIES & OTHER FABRICATIONS OF KNOWLEDGE

Postby creepyhollows » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:39 pm

Bump!

There is someone who is actually saying that spirits & living entities are the same thing? I can't even believe it so I this thread has been updated.

Please, please, please, dear god, use common sense everyone when someone is trying to "educate" you. If they don't even know the difference between why a spirit is called a spirit, and a living entity is called a living entity then question what you're being told. A spirit is a spirit. A living entity is still living. Hence their appropriate names.


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