THE CYNIC & ME-WHY ISN'T THE PARANORMAL EVER CAUGHT ON TAPE

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protoomega wrote:I dunno, in a way, I think it's God/the universe/fate/whatever's way of protecting humans for the time being. I mean, we as a species are pretty divided just over physical, temporary matters. Can you imagine the kind of chaos that would ensue if the paranormal WAS proven? Whole religions would have some of their major tenets shaken to the point of collapse, and we all know what happens when religion gets involved. And then governments would get involved. I mean, are ghosts still citizens? Should they be used as attractions or given the right to privacy? What about all those haunted locations that people love to give tours in-would they have to shut down?

Maybe at some point in the future, people will be ready to accept the truth. But I just don't think the majority is ready YET.
They will be ready to accept the truth only when the truth smacks them in the face....And about their feelings and emotions, to quote Rhett Butler, " Frankly, I don't give a damn..."

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IT'S NOT LIKE GHOSTS ARE GOING TO REGISTER TO VOTE OR PAY TAXES. THEY AREN'T ALWAYS CAPABLE OF BEING SEEN/FELT/HEARD, & EVEN IF IT THEIR PRESENCE WAS PROVEN TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THERE WOULD STILL BE PLENTY WHO WOULDN'T SEE/FEEL/HEAR THEM & WOULD ALWAYS QUESTION THE SAID PROOF.

IS THE WORLD READY FOR THE TRUTH? :think: ARE THEY EVER? :D


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Since 1970, I have been brought to believe that between relativity and quanta is some sort of invisible glue. Likewise for the area of the gossimer structure of the paranormal and the hard structure of the physical.

And that Alchemy is the study and use of that invisible glue, which has something akin to consciousness but is not consciousness as we know it.

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ash-mda wrote:IT'S NOT LIKE GHOSTS ARE GOING TO REGISTER TO VOTE OR PAY TAXES. THEY AREN'T ALWAYS CAPABLE OF BEING SEEN/FELT/HEARD, & EVEN IF IT THEIR PRESENCE WAS PROVEN TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THERE WOULD STILL BE PLENTY WHO WOULDN'T SEE/FEEL/HEAR THEM & WOULD ALWAYS QUESTION THE SAID PROOF.

IS THE WORLD READY FOR THE TRUTH? :think: ARE THEY EVER? :D
It's been my understanding that the "graveyard vote" has always been a factor in politics.


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It's been my understanding that the "graveyard vote" has always been a factor in politics.
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Some of the politicians they have hear & across the pond I wonder if they dug up from the graveyard.


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This is a good topic, and an interesting discussion developed here. Bringing attention to this for those that may not have seen it.


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ash-mda wrote:I BELIEVE WE'VE MENTIONED A FEW TIMES WE HAVE FRIENDS WHO ARE IN OTHER STUDIES (SCIENTIFIC), WHO LOVE TO HAVE THE FRIENDLY ARGUMENTS (AKA 2 HOUR DEBATES) ABOUT OUR BELIEFS & HOW THOSE BELIEFS ARE NOT APPLICABLE IN A SCIENTIFIC ATMOSPHERE. MY ARGUMENT? YOU CAN NOT DENY ENERGY IS ENERGY, YOU CAN NOT DENY THAT SCIENCE IS ONLY AS INTELLIGENT AS ITS LATEST DISCOVERY & THAT WE ONLY COMPREHEND A MERE FRACTION OF WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND US. I DIGRESS THOUGH, BECAUSE OUR DEBATES GO ON & ON & ON.

THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION IS "WHY ISN'T THE PARANORMAL EVER CAUGHT ON TAPE"? IT'S TRUE. HOW CAN YOU ARGUE? MOST OF THE GHOST HUNTING SHOWS ARE HYPE & DRAMA THAT LEAD UP TO NOTHING OR NEXT TO NOTHING. AND EVEN WHEN THEY DO PURPORTEDLY CATCH SOMETHING ON TAPE IT'S PICKED APART BY SLOW MOTION EXAMINATION & USUALLY DETERMINED TO BE FAKED. AND LET'S BE HONEST, THERE'S NO SHORTAGE OF FAKE GHOST & PARANORMAL ACTIVITY VIDEOS OUT THERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF SHOWS THAT HAVE GUESTS WHO DISCUSS WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH, AND USUALLY IT'S REOCCURRING, NOT A ONE TIME ISSUE. SO IF IT HAPPENS TO YOU ON A REGULAR BASIS, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT UP A CAMERA & CATCH IT ON FILM RIGHT? WRONG. BUT, WHY? WELL, LET'S GET THE OBVIOUS OUT OF THE WAY, SOMETIMES PEOPLE FABRICATE THE STORIES TO GET ATTENTION, ENHANCE THE VALUE OF THEIR PROPERTY, AND/OR GET THEIR 15 MINUTES ON TV. BUT, FOR THOSE WHO ARE HONEST, WHAT'S THE ANSWER?

SIMPLE. EACH OF US IS MADE UP OF THE SAME ELEMENTS, BUT ELEMENTS THAT DIFFER IN ACTION & REACTION BETWEEN US. WE EACH HAVE OUR OWN, UNIQUE ENERGY SIGNATURE. I MAY BE ABLE TO SEE MORE DIMENSIONS THAN YOU CAN. MY ENERGY MAY ALLOW ME TO SEE MORE SPIRITS & SPIRITUAL ACTIVITY THAN YOU DO. WE COULD BOTH BE IN THE SAME ROOM & I MAY SEE A GHOST OR SPIRIT PASSING IN THE ROOM WE'RE BOTH STANDING IN & YOU MAY NOT SEE IT. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT THE GHOST IS REALLY THERE, IT HAS TO DO WITH WHO HAS THE SENSITIVITY TO SEE/FEEL/HEAR/SENSE IT. PLAIN & SIMPLE. TWO OF US CAN GO THROUGH A GENUINELY HAUNTED HOUSE & HAVE BOTH SAME EXPERIENCES & VERY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES.

SO? ALL OF THAT SAID. WHY CAN'T THE CAMERA CATCH IT? BECAUSE A CAMERA IS A LENS WITH ELECTRONIC COMPONENTS. IT'S NOT A SENTIENT BEING WITH ENERGY THAT CAN FLUCTUATE, GROW, AND ADAPT TO THE ENERGY AROUND IT. IT'S A CONSTANT ENERGY OF CONSTANT COMPILATION. WITH HUMANS YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR ENERGY DEPENDING ON YOUR ENVIRONMENT, EMOTIONAL STATE, MENTAL STATE, AND STRENGTHEN DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF YOUR ENERGY THROUGH ACTIONS, LIKE EXERCISE, EATING, CASTING SPELLS, ETC. A CAMERA CANNOT DO ANY OF THAT.

I COULD GO THROUGH THE SAME SITUATION 5 TIMES & HAVE 5 DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES IF WITH EACH ENTRY INTO THE SITUATION MY ENERGY LEVELS CHANGE BASED ON ONE VARIABLE OR ANOTHER.

THIS IS WHY THE PARANORMAL IS SO DIFFICULT FOR THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY. THEY WANT CONTROLS & TESTS WITH VARIABLES. BUT HOW DO YOU CONTROL VARIABLES THAT ARE SUSCEPTIBLE TO CONSTANT CHANGE?

THEREIN LIES THE RUB.
When it comes to experiencing things, having variables and controls make no difference. ::jawdrop:: You experience it with or without the controls.


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ash-mda wrote:IT'S NOT LIKE GHOSTS ARE GOING TO REGISTER TO VOTE OR PAY TAXES. THEY AREN'T ALWAYS CAPABLE OF BEING SEEN/FELT/HEARD, & EVEN IF IT THEIR PRESENCE WAS PROVEN TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THERE WOULD STILL BE PLENTY WHO WOULDN'T SEE/FEEL/HEAR THEM & WOULD ALWAYS QUESTION THE SAID PROOF.

IS THE WORLD READY FOR THE TRUTH? :think: ARE THEY EVER? :D
The worlds brains have been massaged and rubbed the wrong way, too much blockage, it's starring them in the face everyday, but at the same time they are blind...the only time they will ready is when they experience it first hand...Let them wake up one night to only see a cloaked figure with red eyes looking at them, or a door slams shut in front of them, even when that happens they may choose to still shut it off in their heads with disbelief...perhaps they are just hiding from the truth, they are too scared to face it!


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You know, I can't help but think of a saying while looking at this thread...

Stuart Chase - "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible."


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