Volkhs versus sin eaters or soul cleansers

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Thank-you Brotony, for your words!! I know we all make mistakes and I have made plenty!!! It won't be the first or the last, the important thing is to learn from them.

This is a learning experince as we all travel our spiritual path!!! Yes it is indeed a beautiful path full of wonder!!!! :rainbow:

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brotony101 wrote:We make mistakes, we learn, we prepare for a better future. This is what the paranormal community SHOULD be all about. Everyone posting here gives me hope. :angel: Have patience with each other and YOURSELF as well. The support is all around you. Be slow to act, quick to remember, and faithful to experience. It's all we got...and it's beautiful. :rainbow:
Wonderful post Brotony! This is what i kind of follow. God knows how many mistakes i've made in the past few months with my spirits.
However i've been slowly learning from them.

I consider myself to be a complete beginner in spirit keeping, but i don't quite feel like a complete idiotic ::noob:: anymore...most of the time.


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brotony101 wrote:We make mistakes, we learn, we prepare for a better future. This is what the paranormal community SHOULD be all about. Everyone posting here gives me hope. :angel: Have patience with each other and YOURSELF as well. The support is all around you. Be slow to act, quick to remember, and faithful to experience. It's all we got...and it's beautiful. :rainbow:
This post can get my best post of the year award 2011!! :rainbow:
Very well said!!


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wow. :insane: i didn't come back and suddenly there were 22 posts here! :)

i would just like to say that it's about time that a person (anyone) is able to express their passionate discontent here on the forum and see it well received and responded to , not only by ash and magnolia, but by other members of this community. too often (and i've only been here since march) have i seen peeps seemingly get p.o.ed with each other too quickly.

Bravo and bravo to Brotony's post also. Those are good words to heed, as were Crone's. I think that it is too easy to get excited about the paranormal without understanding the need for time, experience, and proper education. I hope in this lifetime to comprehend half of the true knowledge which is contained here and want to express my utter respect for those who have dedicated their lives to the study of magick and the paranormal. Let us not dishonor that here, ever.

Thanks for the information on the volkhs and sin-eaters too.
Hugs to all for a thoughtful discussion. And honestly, I don't ever care (although others may)if my topic posts end up going off topic from others , because it pretty much always leads to more practical discussion.

:peace: emzy


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bryan wrote:yea my Divine Dragon conjured a Sin Eater. He told me it's a long process but it's doable.
i am not sure if any of you have ever read any of magnolia's past posts but a spirit can not conjure another spirit! we went through this almost 2 years ago when someone attempted to force members believe this and it is not able to be done. i'm really sorry that you think a dragon can conjure a sin eater and be certain that magnolia will be told about this "thought".

it's always nice to hear people going to the trouble of learning "how to do" on their own alongside a teacher - it is the only way you are going to learn how to do something correctly.

so yep crone is putting that wrench right into this line of "isn't this cool" bull before it gets momentum and a rush begins to get spirits who can do this for the owner with the keeper knowing how or doing anything in the process. do you really understand what kind of damage all this misinformation is doing to the new members? it's stuff like this perpetuated that makes our community the joke it's becoming and those of us who have taken the pains to learn and learn correctly have to be included in that folly.

to conjure a sin eater is a process that is not like any other spirit conjuration at all - magnolia and ash will both attest to this. hey though, believe what ever floats your boats at this point and this is why i am so thoroughly disgusted. at least give the newbies correct information based upon experience training and doing it yourself from your training.

for you new members, please please use common sense and just because it's written here don't take for granted that it's done.

oh, btw, during a conjuration session no spirits go lost, they're right in front of the conjurer as long as the person knows what they are doing so no other spirits are required to wrangle them back "home". will you all listen to yourselves for goddesses' sake. this used to be the premiere forum for knowledge shared and now eyebrows are raised with almost each post. do you all really want to be continued to be known as the "yellow school busey group"? god, man-up and do the actual training with a master before some of you really run the community into a worse state.

btw, i'm really pissed off and i am angry at the continued affrontery from some who believe conjuration is soooo darned easy when it isn't. people train for years under a master, spend more time finding/waiting for a master to find them to train and then spend upwards of thousands and more for the training and experience which will give them the knowledge to conjure. only someone without training would even attempt this statement that i'm replying to and it's sad because i really like the member as i like the member who says hellhounds go find her conjured spirits. what, they went lost or did they disappear? conjurations do not work that way so i suggest a lot of training is needed before anyone even considers using the person. sorry for being blunt but none of you are really doing the new members any favors and worse yet if they believe what they're reading.

now before anyone disputes me please remember i have over 30 years of training, now a total of 39 years in magick and conjuration with a master and so i at least paid my dues the right way and i don't want to see new members dishonored. i told you all i'd be lurking and that i wasn't going to leave this a totally unguarded playground. knowledge is indeed power but it also brings with it a sense of accomplishment when we then do things correctly according to those who came before us. :peace: :grouphug:
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brotony101 wrote:We make mistakes, we learn, we prepare for a better future. This is what the paranormal community SHOULD be all about. Everyone posting here gives me hope. :angel: Have patience with each other and YOURSELF as well. The support is all around you. Be slow to act, quick to remember, and faithful to experience. It's all we got...and it's beautiful. :rainbow:
as many others have said...well said :D :devil:


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Volkhs do have a lot of qualities same as sin eaters/soul cleansers..
i guess it depends on the class rank and tier.
sorry,i cant really answer better than that :(
i will research a bit and see if i can find a better answer to help you :)
until then..just from experience with my volkh..i have to say volkh so far outranks sin eaters..to me anyway.


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Bellatrix lastrange wrote:Volkhs do have a lot of qualities same as sin eaters/soul cleansers..
i guess it depends on the class rank and tier.
sorry,i cant really answer better than that :(
i will research a bit and see if i can find a better answer to help you :)
until then..just from experience with my volkh..i have to say volkh so far outranks sin eaters..to me anyway.


okay, thank you bellatrix.
:peace: emzy


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bryan wrote:yea my Divine Dragon conjured a Sin Eater. He told me it's a long process but it's doable.
I didn't read the rest of the posts and I'm stopping here.
THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE BRO AND YOU KNOW IT.

Also, sin eaters do not rid you of all your sins.... ask a sin eater.
(If you don't have one, you can ask mine).
So don't go ordering a sin eater, erase your sins in the mornings
and start raping the whole world at night.

(save the drama for those who care)
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KENN wrote:
bryan wrote:yea my Divine Dragon conjured a Sin Eater. He told me it's a long process but it's doable.
I didn't read the rest of the posts and I'm stopping here.
THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE BRO AND YOU KNOW IT.

Also, sin eaters do not rid you of all your sins.... ask a sin eater.
(If you don't have one, you can ask mine).
So don't go ordering a sin eater, erase your sins in the mornings
and start raping the whole world at night.


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I totally agree on this :thumbup:


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So, it turns out that it wasn't a conjuration. It was sent to me by St.(AA) Michael unbound. As well as a basilisk. Both were sent to keep me safe for the upcoming war. Michael also told me that they are not to be bound so I'm not gonna bind them.

Edit: I have a strict house rule that says NO UNBOUNDS UNLESS THEY ARE SENT TO HELP ME OR MY FAMILY.


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