I know there are people on the forum who are in long term relationships and don't mind this. I think it's a controversial subject. If my girlfriend was spirit keeping and she had sexual relations with a spirit I wouldn't be okay with that at all, I'd consider it cheating. I mean, how is that any different than doing that with a person?

It is different than cheating largely because there is no physical interaction, it's like fantasizing while having some alone time.

It's a good question. I think the same way you do, which means that for ME, as a married woman, I have decided that I will be a platonic keeper.

Other people can think differently, or other people's physical relationships with their partners might have different parameters. What works for other people in their relationships is fine. But in my case, I couldn't do anything that would make me feel like I was cheating on my spouse. So one of my requirements is that spirits and/or servitors connect to me in a platonic fashion.

fire083 wrote:It is different than cheating largely because there is no physical interaction, it's like fantasizing while having some alone time.

I agree.

Tragic wrote:I know there are people on the forum who are in long term relationships and don't mind this. I think it's a controversial subject. If my girlfriend was spirit keeping and she had sexual relations with a spirit I wouldn't be okay with that at all, I'd consider it cheating. I mean, how is that any different than doing that with a person?

You have to ask yourself this, what does cheating mean? Many people fear cheating because in their mind it could mean she will leave you for someone else, forget you, thus leaving you abandoned and loveless or betray some spiritual ideology like you believe you were meant to be with her till eternity and the after life.

The reality is, she isn't going to leave you for spirit. If you were going to part ways it's because you guys didn't get along, or she didn't feel enough love in the relationship regardless of how much you claim to loved her. We are all particular to how we like love to be expressed. Sex isn't always love. If it was we'd be in love with our hands and vibrators...lol.

A relationship is more than just sex, it's sharing things like time, emotions, finances, activities, values and conversation. Chances are she doesn't have REAL conversations with her spirit, rather just passing thought. Granted this means zero disagreements which is probably the source of many relationship's demise. But regardless, a spiritual relationship is on another realm. When you part from your body, you will be aroused because that's who we are as pure energy. If you meet someone in the astral, it is very difficult to not want to "exchange energy"...and this is coming from the world's most pickiest prude.

So how can a person be cheating if the astral is often described "like a dream". Is she cheating on you if she's dreaming of having sex with someone else? I think not. What matters is in your waking hours you still care and want to nurture each other. What's she wants to do in the astral or her dreams or believe under an enchantment is her private space no one should be judging or get jealous over.

I think it largely depends on the keeper. It depends on their skills and beliefs. If someone is advanced enough where it is much more than being a wet dream, then it falls to how they perceive cheating. If they are not, it is much easier to write it off, I suppose.

I personally could not. I am all for fantasies, but I am not of the mindset that spirit keeping is a fantasy... so to me, it would be very real, and very much a violation of faithfulness (on my end). I am unsure if how much it would bother me if a significant other did it... but I do not think I could even go there, as my brain is not wired like that.

Now there are people who are able to have open relationships, in that case, I think it is an excellent way to experiment! But truth be told, best thing for any relationship is to sit down and talk about what you are and are not comfortable with.

As much as I would like to, the one time a spirit came onto me that way, I flipped out. Kinda like Gryphonista said, Spirit Keeping is real and important to me and if I wanted to be sexual with a spirit it would mean I loved them...and I'm a one on one relationship kinda person, so I wouldn't be able to do that if I was with someone. If I ever decided I loved a spirit more than my partner...call it odd or dumb, but I would probably leave them for the spirit/entity.

Personally, I think a better question would be: How do you feel monogamy holds up in terms of sexual relations? Ie. You may only love one person and have one spouse, but sleep with many people.
If someone believes in it completely, then it's unlikely they'd have any sort of sexual interactions with anyone other then their partner, otherwise, it's likely just excuses we tell ourselves.

If I ever decided I loved a spirit more than my partner...call it odd or dumb, but I would probably leave them for the spirit/entity.

But you've never had a true interaction, so while you think you might do something, you also may not. First of all, right now you don't know what you are giving up. If it ends in a spiritual marriage, you may have to look for your sexual needs elsewhere as it often ends the sexual component for the love and power component.

I will say in the beginning it is a very powerful experience leading to people to realize consciousness can exist without a body. Consciousness can interact with other consciousness without a body. And while it really exist, it exists on another frequency. One which is possible to tune in and out from (depending on skill of course).

To leave a person for a spirit, is simply an excuse to not be in that particular relationship. But it isn't the true source of the problem. If all things are equal it's not so easy to let one good feeling go for another. Because you would be essentially hurting a very real/physical person who exists in this world for a short time who doesn't know there is more to the world than your relationship, for a semi real person who may exist forever and because of that have unlimited relationships where you are just an experience in time. How do you know your spirit isn't involved with other affairs? You don't. Whether we label it cheating or not, energy often travels to places it feels good in. And the most blissful energy is the sexual energy. Because we are not bound by a body, rule or structure, it is hard to pin down rules.

If my man had sexual spirits I'd totally be ok with it, as long as the sexual spirit wasn't hating on me and he wasn't appearing delusional. However, the same rules doesn't not apply with other physical women. Because truthfully there is an ego involved and because she is physical, there is something you can see to compare. Not to mention the games people play to control another. Like so and so does this, why don't you do it too. Ugg. Being upset over cheating or having to share with a physical person makes sense. Being upset over a person that can't quite be seen is a waste of time.

If you consider it a private, personal part of your spirituality that's different - though keep in mind if your partner ever found out, they may not share that view.

Yes, they may not even believe in spirit keeping all together. Which means to them you are totally not cheating. LOL.