No conjurer would conjure a "BA Succubus", often referred to as a Mara. Ba entities aren't like DA ones. They are impossible to keep.

fundude53 wrote:dont be put off by BA alot of humans are BA

No human is BA. Even the worst serial killer could decide to like puppies and be good to them.

And if we're talking about real BA, the destructive and killy ones that only exist to torture and destroy, then one should be put off by them.

Imho we should really keep the clear distinction between WA, the no hurty ones, DA, the ones who can but don't always will and BA the ones who do nothing else.
I know some sellers declare their DA beings as BA because they want to keep newbies away, but honestly, if it can be loyal, nice and be trusted, it shouldn't be called BA.

fundude53 wrote:dont be put off by BA alot of humans are BA but u should go for resonance rather than strength u could try invoking her too to gain a better connection. but DA will be the way too go if u dont have much knowledge of these beings

what do you mean a lot of humans are BA? That simply isn't true, think you're confusing DA meaning and BA meaning

Aprophis wrote:

fundude53 wrote:dont be put off by BA alot of humans are BA

No human is BA. Even the worst serial killer could decide to like puppies and be good to them.

And if we're talking about real BA, the destructive and killy ones that only exist to torture and destroy, then one should be put off by them.
Imho we should really keep the clear distinction between WA, the no hurty ones, DA, the ones who can but don't always will and BA the ones who do nothing else.
I know some sellers declare their DA beings as BA because they want to keep newbies away, but honestly, if it can be loyal, nice and be trusted, it shouldn't be called BA.

So hitler was only da was he or vlad the impailer or any other despot mass
Murderer are only da then your opinion was understud and rejected

fundude53 wrote:

Aprophis wrote:

fundude53 wrote:dont be put off by BA alot of humans are BA

No human is BA. Even the worst serial killer could decide to like puppies and be good to them.

And if we're talking about real BA, the destructive and killy ones that only exist to torture and destroy, then one should be put off by them.
Imho we should really keep the clear distinction between WA, the no hurty ones, DA, the ones who can but don't always will and BA the ones who do nothing else.
I know some sellers declare their DA beings as BA because they want to keep newbies away, but honestly, if it can be loyal, nice and be trusted, it shouldn't be called BA.

So hitler was only da was he or vlad the impailer or any other despot mass
Murderer are only da then your opinion was understud and rejected

just because they did awful things does not mean they only ddid awful things, hitler especially had friends, BA don't have friends, they only know destruction

doing some bad things does NOT make you BA

it's not just his opinion, it's how almost everyone categorizes spirits and entities, including this forum especially that you're posting on. that's like someone seeing a potato and them calling it a potato and you come along stating that is only their opinion and that it is infact a tomato instead

It's his opinion plain and simple one witch I already rejected if he has something constructive to say then ime all ears

Keep this on topic peeps. This isn't about the definition of DA/BA. Or DA vs BA.

Personally, I'd recommend against a BA Succubus, if there is such as one. Ubi's, like us are DA, a BA one would just want to harm you.

I don't think most folks realize how powerful they can be. Like us, they have moods, things that excite them, and they interact with us showing their excitement in such a true and real way...they have nothing to hide. But show us their true meaning.

Ubi's are amazing, the more we learn and let our relationships grow with them.

I believe they are DA, like us, each being an individual and having their own wants and needs out of life. If a listing suggests her to be a BA, I'd think (personally) that might be some trickster in disguise.

Aprophis wrote: No human is BA. Even the worst serial killer could decide to like puppies and be good to them.

And if we're talking about real BA, the destructive and killy ones that only exist to torture and destroy, then one should be put off by them.
Imho we should really keep the clear distinction between WA, the no hurty ones, DA, the ones who can but don't always will and BA the ones who do nothing else.
I know some sellers declare their DA beings as BA because they want to keep newbies away, but honestly, if it can be loyal, nice and be trusted, it shouldn't be called BA.

fundude53 wrote: So hitler was only da was he or vlad the impailer or any other despot mass
Murderer are only da then your opinion was understud and rejected

Velca wrote: just because they did awful things does not mean they only ddid awful things, hitler especially had friends, BA don't have friends, they only know destruction

doing some bad things does NOT make you BA

it's not just his opinion, it's how almost everyone categorizes spirits and entities, including this forum especially that you're posting on. that's like someone seeing a potato and them calling it a potato and you come along stating that is only their opinion and that it is infact a tomato instead

As Rave suggested, you guys should continue discussing that topic in other threads, e.g.:
http://www.creepyhollows.com/phpBB3/topic14134.html
http://www.creepyhollows.com/phpBB3/topic61253.html
http://www.creepyhollows.com/phpBB3/topic20345.html

And just to ensure, not to be confused with this one:
http://www.creepyhollows.com/phpBB3/topic16253.html

: )

fundude53 wrote:It's his opinion plain and simple one witch I already rejected if he has something constructive to say then ime all ears

Sorry that I'm not on topic for this one, but I gotta say it.

It's not just my opinion, it's the opinion of others and it's the definition of BA by CH, it was their definition to begin with.
And I will stand behind and fight for it, always.
Even if you probably don't even wonder why, I'll tell you, anyways.

Imagine a newbie that came here and read all those wonderful things about BA. How they're can help you, how they don't tear your faces of.
Now that newbie isn't just a newbie, he's also totally out of luck. He sees a shiny new being on a conjurers homepage. A BA being.
Only this conjurer (take your pick):
a) Doesn't care about humans and doesn't give a crap if they get hurt
b) Doesn't know what he does and conjures loads of giggling BA that get bound to people and wreak havoc.

If I can prevent just one newbie from getting into trouble with my posts, die, go insane or whatever, then I've made a difference. And that's more than 90% of humanity does every day.

And make no mistake. BA, the real ones, are dangerous. You can't make a binding contract with them, they don't give a crap about your contracts. You can only forceful bind them and then they will fight that binding and wear it down. Even their energy is corrosive and it will erode any binding and they will actively fight it.
And if someone made a contract with them? The lied their faces off and tell you what you want to hear, that's what they do. And if the contract includes a banishing to wherever they came from? They just place a portal in your home, break the contract, get banished and waltz right back into your life through the portal.