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Strange constructs

Postby AceOfSpades » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:48 am

One of the first thing's I've tried before I started doing spirit keeping was meditation. I've been trying for years, to achieve different states of mind. Yet no matter how many time's I've tried I never could get a full grasp on it. However anytime I feel like I've gotten close to it, I see things that further confuse me.

For example. The most basic thing I do regardless where I'm sitting for it is that I stare at a fixed point. When I do that for say 10 to 15 minutes into it, I start seeing strange shapes and constructs that constantly shift in different directions. For the first few times it looked like a crude blue circle of energy collapsing inwards constantly until it becomes a ball before vanishing. Then it repeats itself. I feel like it's supposed to mean something but I'm unsure what. Other times it looks like a wave of energy that passes by left to right. Whilst other times I see indescribable shapes. I thought at first they were my visualizations attempting to manifest but when I try to focus on them becoming clearer it stops. I don't see anything after that and when I try again it doesn't happen for a couple of days.



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Re: Strange constructs

Postby Dreamerunknown » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:56 pm

That's normal. In meditation you let is pass.


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Re: Strange constructs

Postby Lewk » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:45 am

Hope this is a helpful contribution...

I've been meditating for over 45 years but still don't by any means consider myself a 'master', whatever that is. I have experienced quite a few differing types of mediation and read fairly widely.

One classic bit of guidance is to not try hard in meditation to get a specific result. Which may seem a bit odd as people often take up meditation for a specific purpose, such as to experience a sense of peace, or to have a spiritual experience. But as Dreamerunknown says meditators are often encouraged to not be attached to the sensations that arise during the mediation...whether that be visuals, auditory, felt, smell or thought impressions.

I try to remind myself that I still have a normal human mind and body and that some of my experiences make sense from a modern scientific point of view. For example, focusing on a point with my eyes open usually leads to everything dissolving in light, as my focus narrows. Neurology and opthalmics will explain why many of us see geometric patterns and colours, even with our eyes closed.

From another point of view, our psychological state or our stage in 'spiritual ' development may influence strongly what we see when we meditate.

The meaning of a meditation experience is very personal. But because all of us humans work in a similar way, it's also reasonable to expect fairly similar experiences to crop up.

Maybe like dreams have the most meaning for the person who has them, but others can offer dream interpretations, meditation experiences are really for the person who has them...even though others may offer an interesting analysis. Perhaps there is not a universal, objective meaning of what you've seen. You could say it sounds fairly normal? What were you wanting to see?

Perhaps it may help for you to work out what you want to do the meditation for, then find a technique that is most likely to help you achieve that?

My very first visual in meditation was with my eyes closed, seeing circles of white light coming into the centre kind of above me as I sank deeper into my consciousness following the mantra. This was like my focus closing from around me, centering and gathering the light, so that when I finished and opened my eyes the entire room was tangibly filled with white light. Of course it was daylight and it was a shift in my state of consciousness really. But it was totally unexpected. Is that the kind of experience you looking for? If so, it might help to have no expectations when you meditate. Your system will produce the right experience for you as it processes what you're doing. It may seem counter intuitive but I think having no expectations will free your mind /body/ spirit to behave the way it wants to.

Another meditation I've done with eyes open is a za zen technique when I studied the martial art Aikido. This is to bring your mind into the present moment, rather than to sink deep into cosmic inner light shows. It is a kind of 'no mind' technique where you try to get past your thinking mind and your sense of self.

I could go on about different meditation techniques but this is already in danger of turning into being about myself. Basically a way forward in solving the problem you mention might be to work out what you want then research the right meditation method for that need.

Others may have a different view. This is just mine.

Of course, as we're all doing spirit keeping, doing protection techniques daily and before meditation is key as it keeps our systems aligned with positive energies. That also helps with meditation.

Also I think CH has some things that can help unblock your experience. You could ask the shop crew.


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