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Pain When Trying to Project

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:40 pm
by Phantom_Knight
I have been practicing Astral Projection for around a month now, and while I know it takes time to truly master or even project at all, I've come across a barrier I can't seem to pass. Everytime i get close to projecting, and my body is numb, I cannot feel myself breathe and I begin to freak out. I enter the vibrational stage for a second or two, but my fear of not breathing causes me to focus on my physical body and not my astral one. Also, I have never felt my astral limbs seperating from my physical body. What can I do?

Re: Pain When Trying to Project

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:38 pm
by darkwing dook
Mmmmm, maybe meditation to control your panic and breathing exercises to calm the breathing? : )

Re: Pain When Trying to Project

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:47 pm
by Noctua
Also work with your acceptance of death. Sounds funny, but somewhere in there your brain is telling you you're in danger and if you really want to get past that point of the hyper-focus, it would be wise to engage death energy to some degree.. understand it and how it works and flows for a readiness of surmounting the expectations of physicality.

Re: Pain When Trying to Project

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:30 pm
by Phantom_Knight
I wondered about my brain thinking I am dying, because it feels like it! I feel this pain in my chest, and my heart is racing, and my brain starts fo fog and I honestly feel like I am truly dying. How do I get past that point? Can visualizations help, or a different technique? I'm trying to connect with my spirit in the Astral, which is why I am so motivated to succeed.

Re: Pain When Trying to Project

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:37 pm
by Phantom_Knight
Noctua wrote:Also work with your acceptance of death. Sounds funny, but somewhere in there your brain is telling you you're in danger and if you really want to get past that point of the hyper-focus, it would be wise to engage death energy to some degree.. understand it and how it works and flows for a readiness of surmounting the expectations of physicality.
Phantom_Knight wrote:I wondered about my brain thinking I am dying, because it feels like it! I feel this pain in my chest, and my heart is racing, and my brain starts fo fog and I honestly feel like I am truly dying. How do I get past that point? Can visualizations help, or a different technique? I'm trying to connect with my spirit in the Astral, which is why I am so motivated to succeed.

Re: Pain When Trying to Project

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:51 pm
by Cr1ogeN
Try fasting only with water for 2-3 days or dry fasting if you can handle it. This period will humble you and empower you at the same time. You will begin to see how strong the human body is and as Noctua said, you will not be so afraid of dying anymore.

Re: Pain When Trying to Project

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:25 pm
by Likes2Read
I would be careful about not taking in water. People can and do die or get terribly sick due to dehydration. If you are going to fast, I would recommend drinking water regularly to prevent organ failure.

Re: Pain When Trying to Project

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:58 am
by Marilee
Likes2Read wrote:I would be careful about not taking in water. People can and do die or get terribly sick due to dehydration. If you are going to fast, I would recommend drinking water regularly to prevent organ failure.


Yes. This is very true. You can become deathly ill in three days. It can affect blood volume and then blood pressure. You may survive for weeks without food, but the same does not apply for water.

Re: Pain When Trying to Project

Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:56 am
by RavenConspiracy
When working at this, get used to regulating your breathing. Pick a relaxing breathing pattern and count it. Make sure you maintain it until it becomes standard and normal.

It sounds like you're entering partial sleep paralysis, which is often what people are trying to achieve when seeking out of body experiences, or often just while meditating. The key is to let your breathing be the kind of breathing you have when you're sleeping. Let your body's autopilot take the breathing over.

Practice with meditation, especially guided meditation, that uses breathing techniques. I know you'll get it just fine!

Re: Pain When Trying to Project

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:11 am
by Phantom_Knight
RavenConspiracy wrote:When working at this, get used to regulating your breathing. Pick a relaxing breathing pattern and count it. Make sure you maintain it until it becomes standard and normal.

It sounds like you're entering partial sleep paralysis, which is often what people are trying to achieve when seeking out of body experiences, or often just while meditating. The key is to let your breathing be the kind of breathing you have when you're sleeping. Let your body's autopilot take the breathing over.

Practice with meditation, especially guided meditation, that uses breathing techniques. I know you'll get it just fine!



Thanks so much! I managed to last 15 seconds while feeling this "near death" feeling, but I always wake up and gasp for air. It has been so easy to slip into this halfway paralysis state that I've been doing it in meditation and trying to Astral Project. I'll try and work on breathing and counting a pattern and keep you guys updated if you're interested. I feel like i am so close to an OBE but there is something blocking me. I'll keep trying though, it's all about patience!