Fireshadow wrote:Read some wikipedia information about a Watcher ( angel), grigori. Because now I'm totally at odds. I'm not sure if they are even all fallen? Maybe they are some race of angels... maybe they were just the group who stood by in horror and watch their sibblings going into a deep dive.
What do we know about Angels? Angels are Made by God, before God created Humans. You can't compare angels to humans, or humans to angels. You can't compare vamps to angels, or angels to vamps. We are totally different sorts. BUT not only Humans can die. Vamps die as well, faeries die as well, merpeople die as well.
God made many different races of angels. The Enochian angels are only one race of angels. The most known race of angels are the Archangels: archangels are the eldest angels, and highest ranked. What most of us forget is that Lucifer aka Satan aka the Devil was once an archangel. I'm guessing that the archangels are created first, or atleast as being the strongest. Cause they rule directly under God. Lucifer or Michael Lucifer or Michael is the eldest created angel by God.
Michael I guess is the vice president of Heaven, directly under God.
Lucifer is the King of Hell.
Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Ariel, Azrael, Jophiel, Chamuel, those are the well known archangels.
The reason why Luci isn't known as an archangel anymore, is cause he fell. He fell with all those other angels ( regardless of their race, I'm guessing) because they wanted to have some play time with the daughters of Man.
Archangels: the highest ranked angels, the most important = they are immortal.
All other races of angels, are lower ranked, and not Immortal I guess. They can die... cause I've spirits of angels.
The place where they live: Heaven or Hell, or travelling in between.
Michael and co live in Heaven, Lucifer and co live in Hell.
The thing about this subject is that it's very difficult to get information about. I've angels, and partly angels, but I can't get much information about Hell, Heaven, God, or angels. It's all part of some big secret that we ( humans) are not allowed to understand unless we DIE. Cause clearly... no one finds it easy to communicate with angels. All information we have gotten is because of some books, some tv-shows, some talk by HUMANKIND. Not one angel has come down or up and told us all about it. We do have entities angels or spirit angels, but still they can be very tricky. They apparently got orders to keep certain things a secret.
Angels are directly in contact with God Himself. And well, it's already very difficult this subject God. Some say it's not real, some say it's real. I myself am Christian born and raised, but I'm more importanly a Truth-seeker. I do believe in God, and that's for my the answer as why most things stay secret. God himself stays secret, and that's why most angels don't share this information with us. I've no clue what non-believers think is going on with the angels, but that's my take on it. Angels live in Hell or Heaven, or they have taken on a human form and live among us ( those do we call the Fallen Angels).
Ask your grigori watcher, it's the best advice anyone can give you. We don't know for sure, and many do not know for sure. We can only get the most truthfull information from our spiritual companions.
Other advice about how to get more information about angels:' The Bible ( that's very easy cause it's translated in our language), the tv-show supernatural ( yes, I know it's kinda BS, but still, you could watch it), this forum, the encyclopedia from CH, apparently those who claim they can communicate with angels, the angel desk cards, the book series ' Fallen' from Lauren Kate, the internet.
Read it all, watch it all, talk with your Grigori and come to your own conclusion.
The rest will come to you at the end of your life, when you die. ;-)
Hi Fireshadow ! Just noticed you replied to me now !
Thank you so much for your input. I'm doing my research online and I find all these kinda of informations, some contradicting, some confusing. So from what I understood, Watchers not necessarily are Grigori Watchers. My spirit (entity ?) is an Enochian Grigori Fallen Angel. I had him for about a month now and he's the sweetest, most romantic, charming spirit I ever had in my keep. My communication with him is through meditation or tarot cards... but sometimes I still wonder if I'm misunderstanding or it's just my imagination. I still have to work on communicate more clearly with him. Sometimes he seems really quiet so I don't wanna force it. I'm getting this strong sensual vibe from him, he's really alluring and I know he's one of the fallen described in the bible because he wanted to mate with the daughters of man, he fell in love with one.
At the same time, he isn't dark at all and I know he's on the lighter side because of the way he makes me feel.
anyways.... as you said there's seems to be a whole big secret about the whole story of heaven and the fallen. We only know what we know based on what HUMANS have told us or ancient books.... I read somewhere that they have been called "the shining ones".
I don't think CH is selling these kind of spirits, I think they are simply Watchers which to my understanding it's another completely different race.
Anyways...as I don't follow any particular religion I don't believe in Heaven or Hell as described in the bible... but I'm sure there's some kind of "place" for both sides of the coin.
If anyone wants to add anything else or has any knowledge over Grigoris Watchers I would love to know.
I also would love to hear from ASH or Magnolia if they'll ever read this post
Thank you so much guys for all your info, I'll continue my research !