Whyme wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:12 pm You could try map dowsing which requires a pendulum. I don't know if you have one or not. If not then any weight on a string should work. Here's a brief description for how I would map dowse.

Draw a rough map of your abode. This is a process of elimination. Begin with your bedroom. After calibrating your pendulum, place a finger on the area for your bedroom and ask if the heart shape stone is in there. I wouldn't use the word vessel because that may cause confusion with the original vessel. If you get a 'yes' then you can narrow it down to, under the bed? Under clothes? In a drawer? In the closet? Between some stuff?

If you get a 'no' to your bedroom then expand your search bit by bit and be thorough in searching the rooms and hallways.

The process is tedious but maybe you'll find the stone with that method.

Out of curiosity, what is the stone made of? Some quartzes have a habit of disappearing and maybe reappearing in odd places.

Lewk wrote: ↑Sat Dec 03, 2022 5:21 am Also...even if you're well bonded with the spirit whose vessel has been lost and can continue to work with them, I tend to think it's a courtesy to them to have the binding on the lost vessel undone by the original conjurer.

I think from what you've said it's a CH vessel?

Have you seen this?

https://shop.creepyhollows.com/Help-I-l ... essel.html

Maybe you can first try asking them to help you find the vessel or bring it back to you and try dowsing, as Whyme suggested?

Whyme wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:03 pm @darkenVision The reason I asked is because out of all the crystals, I believe rose quartz has a habit of disappearing and reappearing. I have some raw rose quartz and them disappearing hasn't happened to me but I read various sites that it's usually rose quartz though other quartzes do that too. The belief is that if a quartz doesn't return, it did it's job and you no longer need it. If it returns, it might show up in an odd place.

One time I did lose a tumbled clear quartz and I'm not sure how it got out of a pouch. It got lost at work. I never did find it. Maybe it was done with me even though I have other tumbled clear quartz.

Good luck on finding your crystal vessel and I hope you find it soon.

darkenVision wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:51 am [...] But I'm starting to think her original Vessel is the one active, and not the one I lost. But I can't tell

Lewk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:48 pm

darkenVision wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:51 am [...] But I'm starting to think her original Vessel is the one active, and not the one I lost. But I can't tell

Are you able to contact the original conjurer?

That will resolve the matter for you.

The way I would think about it is: was the original vessel unbound by the original conjurer? If not, then the binding should still exist on the original vessel.

If an attempt was made to copy the original binding from the original vessel, was it made with an item obtained from the original conjurer? If so, then the new vessel has only a copy on it and the original vessel is still active.

If an attempt has been made to move the original binding from the original vessel, using a method or item not provided by the original conjurer, it's unlikely to have been successful. Usually only the original conjurer can vary a binding they put in in place.

I hope that now helps make a bit more sense of things.

Really the best thing to do to resolve the situation would be to contact the original conjurer. Once you have done that, some of the uncertainty around this situation - which is a classic way to have a block or to afflict confidence relating to spirit communication - will lift.

darkenVision wrote: ↑Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:08 pm So it was a Transmute Spell, to move Spirits or Spells from Vessel to Vessel.

I don't know if it actually worked though since I really didn't feel anything different