Yes safety and protection has be be a first even if we do this in a dreamscape as Bunni mentioned:I have to agree, for the same reasons Noc stated. I must admit, initially I was under the impression when you mentioned a group Astral Travel session be organized, that it would be a specific time agreed upon by the group involved, in dream scape.. not via a chat room.Likes2Read wrote:Before anything even happens, this is something to consider.
We had multiple people in charge of leading the chatroom expedition. First, there was a shield in place to keep the nasties away -- not everything one would meet in the astral is beneficial or friendly. Second, we had a definite person guiding the progress as far as which way to go and when. Third, someone was bringing up the rear to make sure no one was left behind, which was a distinct risk as there were people who are not experienced in AP, and couldn't reliably see/hear what was going on. Leaders were actually "physically" (so to speak) making sure that everyone kept up and was moving forward with the group, guiding people by the arm or hand as needed.
If those safety precautions are not in place FIRST, before anything else happens, then I don't think it's a safe idea. I wouldn't want someone to drift off and get into an unsafe situation, and no one else notice because there's not a leader assigned to keep a head count of all those present. Perhaps people could travel in pairs, an experienced person with a novice, *and* still have at least one leader keeping track to make sure that all the pairs stay together. Plus someone else maintaining the shield at all times to keep the nasties away.
There also would need to be a time limit set on the experience. Whether you believe Monday's trip was an actual AP experience or a remote viewing one, focusing on it for two hours was exhausting, and this is coming from someone with experience in focusing for extended periods of time. If lots of beginners are on board, I recommend all the above precautions PLUS limiting the trips to 5-10 minutes at a shot. 15 minutes, max.
I think that some sessions can be arranged where people can practice together. But I also think that participants should be thinking, "Safety first, last, and always" before anyone attempts to get anything off the ground.
Understand first and foremost that for these very reasons mentioned, it would be better to do in a dreamscape situation first, and we could post our experiences in a thread just for that!!! You will still need protection!!!!
I also encourage people, BEFORE, this would even to take place, practice on their meditations and visualization and protection skills!!!! This is something that will not happen overnite and can even take years to learn!!!! So understand I am not saying that we just just jump right in and start doing this!!!! That was not my intent!!!!
When my friends and I did it, we did it dreamscape first, then moved on to trying it out in a chatroom, but we had very experienced people who protected us and we also had our own protection skills going as well and no one was left out to fend for themselves!!!! Also it never lasted as long as it did during the chat here!!!!! It takes a LOT of energy to pull something like that off!!!!! I was even tired!!!!! I should mentioned it took us a few years to do as well!!!!
This is not something that we just jump into doing right off the bat!!!!!
So that being said, let's just start learning how to get the meditation going and the protection in place!!!! Each of you will have to practice that first and even when doing meditation, you will have to have protection in place first!!!!! Learn how to set up your protection using shields and the like, not just depending on your protective spirits only, this also applies to your dreams too!!!!
Then if you have a really good meditation and or dream, then post it, so we can see how you are doing!!!! We have to start with the basics before we go anywhere!!! 7\
Now ladies, Noc and Bunni, how does that sound to you all?
Very true Fire, this would not go anywhere without Mags and Ash's approval and it is best done in person, however not everyone lives close enough to have in person help and I would not start anything without Mag or Ash's approval!!!!Instrument of the end Fire of 83 wrote:Out side of Chat events like the luck o the keepers or similar things like that are against the rules unless cleared by Magnolia or Ash. While I agree it would be a good idea to do work like this with people agreeing it is not something that should be done regularly on the CH chat. Also it works best face to face not over the interwebs.
However people can practice on their own if they want to and use good sense in using protection and learning the basic skills, there are a lot of resources out there that can be used, books, here on this form, by reading the threads on how to do meditations and keeping track of your dreams and learning all you can about protection and asking questions!!!!!
So having said that I will not start doing anything in chat until people learn what they need to learn first and it may not happen either, because it will take a LOT of time to learn what you need to learn!!!!! So don't panic anyone, I would not ever just jump into it!!!!! 7\