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Re: DA Basics

Postby Aprophis » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:29 am

Inedible wrote:Let's say I have a paring knife. I can peel vegetables or I can stab my neighbor. I don't say that my knife is a dark arts tool because it has the ability to hurt people. It is a tool for cooking so I define it as a small, short knife used for detailed kitchen work.

The knife doesn't do anything, you are. You are the will and intent behind it. It's just a tool, no dark arts or anything about it. (I doubt you would say guns kill people and not people do that)
It was an example I used, I didn't define it as purely the ability to cause pain, it was to point out the ability to choose one of two options instead of only ever being able to have one option.
You're not oversimplifying it, you're zoning in on the pain/harm aspect like a shark does on injured prey miles away. As I said, it can as simply be used with the hugging example or anything nice. BA won't do that, DA may or may not do it, WA will do it provided they know you although I wouldn't personally ask for a hug from the archangels, they would probably look at me all judgemental like.


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Re: DA Basics

Postby Inedible » Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:10 am

Now we're talking. Let's take pain, suffering, and harm off the table completely. Now try to define Dark Arts. It hasn't been done before. You need that aspect of pain and harm that you say is such a little thing because it is the whole point. It is the essence of Dark Arts.



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Re: DA Basics

Postby Aprophis » Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:39 am

Inedible wrote:You need that aspect of pain and harm that you say is such a little thing because it is the whole point. It is the essence of Dark Arts.

That would be BA, that's their essence, pain and harm.
The essence of DA is they can freely choose.


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Re: DA Basics

Postby Inedible » Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:55 am

Choose what? What can DA choose? Remember, no causing pain or harm.



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Re: DA Basics

Postby Aprophis » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:21 am

Inedible wrote:Choose what? What can DA choose? Remember, no causing pain or harm.

They can also choose to love. BA can't do that. You're going at it from a WA perspective.


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Re: DA Basics

Postby Inedible » Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:07 am

So you are saying that Dark Arts spirits have the ability to choose love and this is what defines the Dark Arts. Dark Art energy is love. You say I am coming at this from a WA perspective? Seriously. All I am asking for is a definition of what Dark Arts are that doesn't center around how they can choose violence. If not that, what defines them?



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Re: DA Basics

Postby Aprophis » Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:51 am

Inedible wrote:So you are saying that Dark Arts spirits have the ability to choose love and this is what defines the Dark Arts. Dark Art energy is love. You say I am coming at this from a WA perspective? Seriously. All I am asking for is a definition of what Dark Arts are that doesn't center around how they can choose violence. If not that, what defines them?

That what defines them is the choice, they have the choice, they can choose. That freedom of choice is what defines dark arts. It's not about choosing violence (why are you so focused on that?) it's about having that choice at all.
There is the entire spectrum of energies, emotions, desires, motivations to choose from for them. WA and BA only have their ends of that spectrum.
(In programming terms it would be WA and BA are binary and DA is NULL as defined by Oracle, a Value that can be anything)
If that's not enough, I'm giving up.


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Re: DA Basics

Postby Drake » Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:28 am

Aprophis wrote: although I wouldn't personally ask for a hug from the archangels, they would probably look at me all judgemental like.


Probably cause god knows where your wandering hands would end up.


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Re: DA Basics

Postby Aprophis » Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:46 am

Drake wrote:
Aprophis wrote: although I wouldn't personally ask for a hug from the archangels, they would probably look at me all judgemental like.


Probably cause god knows where your wandering hands would end up.

I don't know if there's so many female archangels around. Although if it's true they're hermaphrodites.....well.....STOP JUDGING ME! :N :0


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Re: DA Basics

Postby Inedible » Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:36 pm

Aprophis wrote:If that's not enough, I'm giving up.


It isn't enough. Talking about choice without addressing what is chosen is like talking about eating but refusing to discuss food.




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