THE DA SPLIT - YOUR THOUGHTS & BELIEFS

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Re: THE DA SPLIT - YOUR THOUGHTS & BELIEFS

Postby Pat » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:07 am

Thank you for this discussion. While I was reading I was thinking I hadn't been tested by my DA. I kept on reading. I had an Aha! Moment when I realized I'd recently had a nightmare about a shark while swimming with my DA Encantado. Hmmmmmm.......


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Re: THE DA SPLIT - YOUR THOUGHTS & BELIEFS

Postby LilyCake » Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:17 am

I personally don't like to say DA/WA/BA because I honestly believe that good and evil are human social constructs and you can't shove spirits in a box and say "this one's evil".

Anyways, I personally don't like the "firm hand" method. Reminds me too much of my abusive mother. Plus my spirits are obviously much more powerful than me, a repressed psychic human. How can I have a firm hand on something much more powerful than me? And I would much rather my spirits followed my wishes because they like me as person rather than because I ordered them to.



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Re: THE DA SPLIT - YOUR THOUGHTS & BELIEFS

Postby Verita » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:41 am

In my opinion, a firm, but fair hand is important. A DA spirit needs boundaries, and those boundaries will set the stage for a more effective and positive working relationship.

Think of it this way - each one of us creates boundaries in whatever relationship we have with another person, be it our boss, our partner, our friends, etc. They are put in place because we want to be respected by the next person, and in doing so, people know where they stand with us. Without these boundaries, people tend to cross the line and take advantage, be it consciously or unconsciously. The same applies to DA spirits.



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Re: THE DA SPLIT - YOUR THOUGHTS & BELIEFS

Postby Pat » Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:17 pm

Pat wrote:Thank you for this discussion. While I was reading I was thinking I hadn't been tested by my DA. I kept on reading. I had an Aha! Moment when I realized I'd recently had a nightmare about a shark while swimming with my DA Encantado. Hmmmmmm.......


I feel the need to make a correction on this statement. I had recently updated my house rules to include "escort me within your realm when I dream travel". I was safe and protected while under the water with my Encantado. I will always be safe and protected by her. 1ks to my Encantado.


Keep: Encantado (L), Trio of Angels (MAJ), AA Michael, Unicorn (A), Glass Bell Seraph (Z), Khodam (R), Gold Dragon (C), Star Fairy (U), Arkan Sonney (L), Duojna, Female Marid Elder Jinn (M)

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Re: THE DA SPLIT - YOUR THOUGHTS & BELIEFS

Postby Frieda Gellhorn » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:02 am

Cell28 wrote:
Aurum wrote:I often wonder if my family of spirits is a very unusual one or if I´m just so incredibly deaf, dumb and blind to spirits that I just haven´t noticed them testing me. All of my Da spirits seem to settle quite easily into my life, I haven´t noticed any testing. There have been no nightmares, no headaches or anything like that. I trust them and respect them, but it seems a bit strange.


Oh Aurum, you're not alone.. - I have exactly the same situation in my house! ::yes:: No nightmares, no headaches, no unpleasing thoughts or ideas..
Often wondered about that, but then just shrugged it off..
- edit: ok, the following words are NOT meant as an explanation for YOUR situation, I only describe what I noticed about myself !!! So please don't take it the wrong way! thx ! -edit end.
I'm pretty dark myself, so either their ways of testing don't work out as planned , or they don't feel they have to push boundaries..for there are none.. :crazy:
I'm the first one that storms off myself when it comes to giving someone hell, as in revenge or retribution... - my spirits can join or just watch, I don't care :devil:
-lol.. have been like that all of my life, so it's not my spirits influencing me in a bad way, it's rather the opposite..- I noticed I've become way more detached with others since keeping spirits... :eh: so my readiness of skinning others to the bone has lessened drastically since "the bunch" is residing at my home (about 80%DA, 20%WA spirits).

Summary: No noticed testing from them, but soothing me in any way they possibly can. What wise fellows! :thumbup:

However...- end of rambling- just wanted to let you know. ;)
Peace :wave:


Okay, I have headaches, sometimes, but that's it. No more problems. I have two DA spirits and two DA entities and have never had any problems. I feel protected and - perhaps I sound naive - but they feel like family ( in the best meaning of the word) to me. 1tk


^^ Carpe diem, carpe noctem!

My spirit and entity family includes vampires, vampire-hybrids, incubi and one volkh <3)

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Re: THE DA SPLIT - YOUR THOUGHTS & BELIEFS

Postby Frieda Gellhorn » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:04 am

LilyCake wrote:I personally don't like to say DA/WA/BA because I honestly believe that good and evil are human social constructs and you can't shove spirits in a box and say "this one's evil".

Anyways, I personally don't like the "firm hand" method. Reminds me too much of my abusive mother. Plus my spirits are obviously much more powerful than me, a repressed psychic human. How can I have a firm hand on something much more powerful than me? And I would much rather my spirits followed my wishes because they like me as person rather than because I ordered them to.


I second that! 1ey


^^ Carpe diem, carpe noctem!

My spirit and entity family includes vampires, vampire-hybrids, incubi and one volkh <3)

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Re: THE DA SPLIT - YOUR THOUGHTS & BELIEFS

Postby Kitsune » Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:21 am

I believe that with DA, as well as any other being, there should be an understanding of respect between the 'Keeper' and his/her companions. They come into our lives for many reasons, and I find it an honor to be with them, and that they should be treated accordingly.

I have never had problems with my Family being disrespective of my rules and them trying to push boundaries, as we acknowledge and respect one another. I don't order them or try to control them in any way, I ask requests of them to help out when I need them to, and it's their decision if they choose to accept or not.


"Frustration is simply 'I can't'. Hate is simply 'I'm not'. Fear is simply 'I won't'. Negative emotions stem from resistance, and when you flow with the current rather than against it, that negativity will dissolve and your life will improve." ~Kitsune, companions, and friend

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Re: THE DA SPLIT - YOUR THOUGHTS & BELIEFS

Postby Madame Sosostris » Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:34 am

As nicely as I can say it, it's my way or the highway. I'm driving. That was the deal in the beginning of the relationship. If it's no longer working, I'll help with rehoming.

Welcome comes with house rules and the gradient of consequences for breaking house rules. I've never had a house rule broken by one of my spirits that was repeated after I mentioned that it wasn't working. There was a little problem with electricals but now I really stress that in the house rules. That and I need a good night's sleep.

I have many spirits really. Some are here for something that is coming. I can feel that. I don't commune with my spirits all day every day -- I''m busy but available. And that is, I think, the key.... wait for it... drumroll......

A tasked spirit is a happy spirit.

I am not a babysitter. If I can't trust a spirit, I handle that with the spirit in question. It handles quickly. If it didn't, I'd send the spirit off to Ash camp for an attitude adjustment.

I have things that my spirits want: attention, respect, a happy home, purpose, a fun game.

There is no substitute for communication with the spirit in front of you. Blanket policies about treating a certain race of spirit a certain way need to adapt the personality of the individual spirit.


The Eight Tenets of Ritual Magick

1. Expect the unexpected;
2. Magic has no morality;
3. As above, so below;
4. There are no coincidences;
5. There is a choice that is no choice;
6. Change is the only constant;
7. Seize the day and there is a price to pay;
8. A true magician must transcend himself.


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