We are now discussing the relativistic (non absolute) nature of morality. It should be obvious, everything is relative.. that is why when you want to know what you are working with you should ask questions, learn to sense and to discern, and decide what that means to you. This has been stated many times before. Definitions and terminology are going to slightly differ from practitioner to practitioner and generally we must take situations of energy on a case by case basis of what it is. In my previous post I emphasized the necessity of being able to discern for yourself, and I stand by that.. I don't think it gets any simpler, or unfortunately more complex. LOL.
It's hard to categorizze but all at once it's actually not hard to understand or apply categorizations. CH when they say something is 'White' or 'Dark' arts they add a note on what that means to them, and we read it and then we know. A general term is used for efficiency, the description or meaning to the one who categorized an energy is used for our understanding, and finally our personal intuition or discernment is used for if it makes sense to us or if it's right for us.
It doesn't matter how something is labeled, it matters what that means to the one in question and how that meaning is translated for us personally.
We're all smart enough to know that energy isn't static and that it can be observed in many different ways, but to act like there is no set in stone definition to an energy or conclusion that can be drawn from it is silly.. there has to be, there always is, and that's why we have order in the universe. Even in the chaotic array of how things can be, there are fundamental truths - there are foundations and that is what masters and experienced practitioners of their craft recognize! Even those who simply, appreciate knowledge. There is a 'core' to all things and that 'core' is relevant. That 'core' can be defined many ways but it doesn't change the core, and that's what you discern when you get into your involvement with the arts. That's what people are losing sight of because they are arguing over terms, which are only words. Do you understand a presence? How do you react to that presence? How consistent is this? What consistency is most prominent. These are relevant questions.
There will NEVER be a consensus, on a system or systemlessness. Never going to happen. All of this back and forth philosophizing on what things mean to individuals is neat and it's certainly stimulating and worthwhile as an intellectual discussion.. but at the end of the day when you want an answer there's no need to complicate it for yourself.
Example. When someone says 'white arts' means 'will do no harm' I understand that this person chooses to entitle a category as 'white arts' and they define that as 'it seeks to bring positive energy' to a situation. Positive energy or positive intent of a being is not always ideal to us or appreciated by us as individuals, but it doesn't change the fundamental nature of that being. (Unless you subscribe to the theory that things exist only as a result of observation, then that being might cease to exist to you).
If we decide 'white arts' therefore can potentially be 'bad' for us because of this, so be it, but we're just defining an experience for ourselves.. and experience is personal, and varies so wildly, it's not useful for categorization - but categorization is necessary when you have a business/establishment. Laws are necessary to govern a country. Rules are necessary to keep things in place. They aren't the secret to our nature, they may not even accurately reflect our nature, but they have a purpose and this is taken as it is taken.
Therefore both - the varying categorization and the varying personal experience are relevant at different levels of understanding. They can also be distinct from one another and that's part of what makes for the individual's path. The Apollonian and Dionysian come to mind, there is a balance in all things.. there are balances found within balances and all aspects are relevant to some degree.
At once, and in line with what I veered off on just above.. it's always going to be a lot more complex because energy not only reacts with other spectrums of energy, but other distinct beings of energy (each and every one of us in our individual make-up) and there are slight to noticeable nuances in that result. The combinations of distinct, interacting energies are INFINITE and they all are bound to have slightly different reactions. Hence personality, character, the nature of the soul.