Rungr wrote:I honestly believe succubus are demons because that's literally what they are from. I don't personally feel if someone is trying to separate succubus/incubus from being demons then they aren't real succubus/incubus. It's kind of an unpopular opinion but it's like trying to say a raven isn't a bird because my personal preference on conjuring should dictate that even though in all text succubus are demons, but since demons are considered evil and bad we have new agers try to separate the two but in my opinion if it's not a demon it's not a real succubus/incubus and shouldn't be coined as something else.

However, demons is something in human text sure, whereas the actual entities may not consider themselves demons. It's like the Egyptian vampires, not the ones listed in keeper sites (mainly because they don't bind to people) they consider themselves Asetian and Sethians first and foremost but vampires second.

So at the end of the day, I suppose it's up to the conjurer on what they wish to spread on the subject and the keeper on what they wish to view them as. Personally, I still consider all succubus demons, but a succubus/incubus can consider themselves succubi/incubi above all else because that is a type of demon, not all demons are from the same place or have the same origins but doesn't mean they aren't demons.

GodSlayerBabe wrote:

Rungr wrote:I honestly believe succubus are demons because that's literally what they are from. I don't personally feel if someone is trying to separate succubus/incubus from being demons then they aren't real succubus/incubus. It's kind of an unpopular opinion but it's like trying to say a raven isn't a bird because my personal preference on conjuring should dictate that even though in all text succubus are demons, but since demons are considered evil and bad we have new agers try to separate the two but in my opinion if it's not a demon it's not a real succubus/incubus and shouldn't be coined as something else.

However, demons is something in human text sure, whereas the actual entities may not consider themselves demons. It's like the Egyptian vampires, not the ones listed in keeper sites (mainly because they don't bind to people) they consider themselves Asetian and Sethians first and foremost but vampires second.

So at the end of the day, I suppose it's up to the conjurer on what they wish to spread on the subject and the keeper on what they wish to view them as. Personally, I still consider all succubus demons, but a succubus/incubus can consider themselves succubi/incubi above all else because that is a type of demon, not all demons are from the same place or have the same origins but doesn't mean they aren't demons.

I literally was going to say something very similar to this.. This is the way I've always thought and I feel my ubis would agree at least loosely with the word as a generalization. Hard for me to believe there is a distinction between them being demons and "not being demons"... I'm pretty sure incubi and succubi are inherently demons.. But then I realize the word "demon" is a loaded word throughout history and groups out there, in many contexts. Just like you said.

I can't unsee them as anything else though, because to me it would be like... what would they be then?

Rumonice wrote:Response from S&S

Each conjurer have their own realms and connection that they conjure from. Also the definitions will vary between people and websites on what they consider 'Demonic' and what they consider Dark Arts, Black Arts etc. So I am very glad that you emailed us asking for more detail so we can explain!

The Succubus's and Incubus's that we conjure come from the demonic realms, making our conjures in specific demonic. This doesn't mean that other conjurer's Succubus's and Incubus's are also demonic, it just means they conjure theirs from somewhere else. It all comes down to a matter of definition and what realm they are conjuring from.

Which is why our prices are the way they are. Because when it comes to demonic energy there is a level of expertise that is involved in insuring that what we conjure is safe and the protocols that we take during the conjuring and ritual processes.

I hope this answer's some of your questions

Dark Blessings!
Velca