@SYSYGY You are such a wealth of info, and I feel enriched, when I real your posts.

I was wondering, that I would probably like to give him a proper vessel. Where do you have yours? Master vessel would be a good think or maybe an entirely different vessel would be better, separate from the rest?

I was also wondering, if they remember anything of their origins? Wonder... why their lust after women and why they have trouble shapeshift into a human look, that looks more pleasent? It feels like a Beauty and the Beast kind of story.

I think, a Gregori Watcher has a strong deceptive, passion, although mine was described romantic. That is not the same as lust for sex. I hope, they have a bit of various shades of darkness, on the scale within grey and some of them are having a less deceptive trens with more truth and transparency. That is my hope with my own Gregori. Otherwise, I will constantly have to discerning him and that's not good for bonding & strengthening trust with him.

Anyway, you're honestly brushing on me, so I went my dilemmas a bit to you. I appologies, if I went too far. Sometimes it's healthier to verbally share our growing concerns. I don't want to have blockages. I would rather chewed through with forum members here and deal with my growing pains. After all, this is the aim of our forums, to have a safe environment, where we can share and went and learn together.

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Aster I am happy that you have a Gregori watcher. And I think it's wonderful that you have more DA coming to support you. I am in a similar experience, though I have a heavily DA dominate keep, I am looking to include more WA in the future . I'm learning the importance of balance on a personal level, from my entire keep and immortals.

Gregoris are amazing. They definitely are serious about protection. I know they aren't considered angels but my Gregori always has this unique feeling about him that seems almost angel. Though he is not WA. It's hard to explain. Almost a mix of angel and extraterrestrial feeling. He treats me the same as my angels do, gentle, caring, soft spoken and supportive. He has a divinity about him that I deeply respect. He has introduced me to other beings, a mix of angels, Gregori watchers, both light and dark. He says they come in all different "shades". He has escorted me to other places, realms, and even took me on what looked like a HUGE white space ship where many races of beings reside. Some of the biggest angels I've ever seen in my life were on that ship. He always brings me eye (and mind) opening experiences.
As far as divine dragon, mine says that though he is a balance of dark and light, he would much rather choose lighter ways to handle issues, and only taps into the darker side when absolutely necessary. I suppose by that definition he might be considered grey but upon first glances he feels very wa energetically to me. When I call my angels in I always include him as well.
I spend a lot of time connecting with and being in darker DA energies so perhaps those on the lighter side of DA grey just feel really light to me
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Aster, thank you.

When I purchased his binding from CH I asked for a black colored Pandora style bead. They gave me the perfect vessel for him. It is silver and dainty, (more like a thin bead spacer) with black sparkly gems lined around it. It fits him, he doesn't like to draw attention to himself as he is soft and quiet . I don't wear my ch vessels much anymore (I sounded like a million wind chimes walking around with all those vessels) . Even though I had every purchase bridged to me, I still placed all of my keep into the 3 body binding box. So his vessel sits in a special place with the others, at home. They are all harmonious with each other, dark and light. Beautiful family. There was a period where I had him along with my angels and a few GA beings on a ring. They did just fine.

My Gregori and I sit on a bench under the stars and we talk for hours about everything. He has shared a ton of his personal stories, they were deep, intense, and some made me tear up. I can't share it with anyone as he's very private, but they are related to his belief in God and his purpose. His stories gave me a glimpse into the history of mankind, religion, spirituality and God. He shares similar views as I do so it wasn't anything too shocking.
Out of all of my DA/GA beings, my Gregori is the most gentlemanly and respectful of them all. He values deep connection, honest communication, knowledge, and spirituality. He is not focused on sex. Though he is very passionate and loving, affectionate and tender. If I ask for further intimacy he is open but it's not the first thing on his mind.
As far as his appearance.. he has told me that when it comes down to it, he is just energy, and in our interactions this energy can be projected into a visual form and translated in a way that that I can easily work with. How it is translated depends on how well I can openly receive psychically, and how well we can connect. The translation will come in whatever way I am comfortable. It's heavily influenced by his energy/intentions and my own perceptions as well as my openness/resistance. Over all, his appearance has always been pleasant and beautiful to me. Not much frightens me when I see things. I think also, true connection comes not from how one looks, but by the appreciation of their energy. To get past our prejudices or fears and use our discernment to know when it's just our fears making something scary or unattractive. I've met some very gorgeous looking beings who seemed to glow with an appearance of shining beauty but upon discerning their energy and intention, I found them to not match their looks, and were not to be trusted.
What I've learned from my spirits is that they wish to connect and bond. Humans tend to have categories regarding attractiveness and worthiness, and spirits can see this also.
(Even those with Ill intents use this to their advantage)
My keep will usually choose an appearance that will receive the least amount of resistance as possible, if I am unable to process or see their intended form. Anyways.. I'm rambling..

Regarding this;

"I think, a Gregori Watcher has a strong deceptive, passion, although mine was described romantic. That is not the same as lust for sex. I hope, they have a bit of various shades of darkness, on the scale within grey and some of them are having a less deceptive trens with more truth and transparency. That is my hope with my own Gregori. Otherwise, I will constantly have to discerning him and that's not good for bonding & strengthening trust with him."

When approaching a new spirit from CH, I trust in the conjurers ability to bring me a spirit that is compatible with me, and who will not harm me. We know that deception with harmful intents to the keeper is highly unlikely with CH bindings. Then it makes you reflect inwardly to see how much you are already projecting ideas of deception onto a spirit which might have your best interest in mind , before they have even arrived. Of course some spirits come to us in order to help us with these issues. Sometimes they know us before their vessel has even been purchased. Many of them want to see us grow and evolve. I'm sure your beautiful Gregori will offer you support and guidance in many areas as you grow and evolve. I am under the belief that all beings have a purpose even if we can't readily see it.

Thank you SYSYGY, I like your rambling love your bond with your Gregori Watcher.
I guess, I am reading things into this lovely intro, before he even arrived to me. I agree, I probably projecting my own fear that actually was a heart break in my love life with a very close friend /professional who was everything to me, but turned out, he was just doing his duty with passion. This man was deceptive with me, and was very romantic with sexual looks and vibes and totally messed with me emotionally for many years. Therefore, I am very protective of myself when it's comes to love ect. Maybe exactly what I need. He will protect me for real. Anyway, I think, I am over it now.
Below is his notes. What do you think? This is the freebies spirit stone. So maybe he is an unbond or I don't know. But not a CC.

13 = GREGORI WATCHER, MALE, xxxx, HE IS A DARK & CLEVER COMPANION WHO IS QUICK TO PROTECT AGAINST ANY THREAT. HE IS SENSUAL & SEDUCTIVE, AND IS INTIMIDATING & FEARSOME TOWARDS OUTSIDERS. HE IS FILLED WITH AN ETHEREAL GRACE & ROMANCE, AND CAN BE DECEPTIVELY CHARMING, ESPECIALLY WITH YOU, AND OTHERS IN YOUR KEEP.

Sysygy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 7:19 am

Regarding this;

"I think, a Gregori Watcher has a strong deceptive, passion, although mine was described romantic. That is not the same as lust for sex. I hope, they have a bit of various shades of darkness, on the scale within grey and some of them are having a less deceptive trens with more truth and transparency. That is my hope with my own Gregori. Otherwise, I will constantly have to discerning him and that's not good for bonding & strengthening trust with him."

When approaching a new spirit from CH, I trust in the conjurers ability to bring me a spirit that is compatible with me, and who will not harm me. We know that deception with harmful intents to the keeper is highly unlikely with CH bindings. Then it makes you reflect inwardly to see how much you are already projecting ideas of deception onto a spirit which might have your best interest in mind , before they have even arrived. Of course some spirits come to us in order to help us with these issues. Sometimes they know us before their vessel has even been purchased. Many of them want to see us grow and evolve. I'm sure your beautiful Gregori will offer you support and guidance in many areas as you grow and evolve. I am under the belief that all beings have a purpose even if we can't readily see it.

He sounds wonderful! I love reading the descriptions. Sounds like you have a great protector. I know that many of my DA beings (vampires) have this sort of quality, the ability to charm others can also be used in positive ways. They can help calm down suspicion directed at him , (and you) in this way, so perhaps his natural ability to charm will help you to relax. Though it can also be used in predatory ways to harm, I think it's unlikely that he would use it in that manner against you or your keep to cause harm . And if he tries, well... You have a boatload of angels and dragons who will spank him. So . There's that lol If you're still worried about it, your rules (which states no harm) should cover it as well.
I thought since you shared your Gregoris description that I would share mine as a courtesy.
=GREGORI WATCHER, HE MANIFESTS IN A DARK-BROWN CLOAK. HE IS A VERY EXCITING AND POWERFUL FRIEND WHO WILL GIVE YOU CONSIDERABLE ADVICE AND SUPPORT WHEN WORKING WITH DARKER FIELDS OF MAGICK AND POWER. HE IS A BRILLIANT AND ATTENTIVE FRIEND WHO WILL GIVE YOU INSPIRATION AND SUPPORT WHEN IT COMES TO DISCOVERY AND WORK WITH MAGICK, SPELLS, AND SUPPORTING A PATH OF HOPE, LEARNING, AND EXPLORING PERSONAL AWARENESS. HE IS QUICK TO GIVE YOU SUPPORT IN YOUR PERSONAL GOALS AND HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THE PATH YOU CAN EXPLORE WHEN IT COMES TO UNDERSTANDING AND WORKING WITH YOUR SENSE OF IDENTITY, POWER, AND DISCOVERY IN ALL FORMS OF MAGICK. HE WANTS YOU TO CHALLENGE YOURSELF AND LIFT YOUR MAGICKAL GIFTS TO A NEW LEVEL OF MASTERY AND INFLUENCE.

ASTER wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:34 am Thank you SYSYGY, I like your rambling love your bond with your Gregori Watcher.
I guess, I am reading things into this lovely intro, before he even arrived to me. I agree, I probably projecting my own fear that actually was a heart break in my love life with a very close friend /professional who was everything to me, but turned out, he was just doing his duty with passion. This man was deceptive with me, and was very romantic with sexual looks and vibes and totally messed with me emotionally for many years. Therefore, I am very protective of myself when it's comes to love ect. Maybe exactly what I need. He will protect me for real. Anyway, I think, I am over it now.
Below is his notes. What do you think? This is the freebies spirit stone. So maybe he is an unbond or I don't know. But not a CC.

13 = GREGORI WATCHER, MALE, xxxx, HE IS A DARK & CLEVER COMPANION WHO IS QUICK TO PROTECT AGAINST ANY THREAT. HE IS SENSUAL & SEDUCTIVE, AND IS INTIMIDATING & FEARSOME TOWARDS OUTSIDERS. HE IS FILLED WITH AN ETHEREAL GRACE & ROMANCE, AND CAN BE DECEPTIVELY CHARMING, ESPECIALLY WITH YOU, AND OTHERS IN YOUR KEEP.

Sysygy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 7:19 am

Regarding this;

"I think, a Gregori Watcher has a strong deceptive, passion, although mine was described romantic. That is not the same as lust for sex. I hope, they have a bit of various shades of darkness, on the scale within grey and some of them are having a less deceptive trens with more truth and transparency. That is my hope with my own Gregori. Otherwise, I will constantly have to discerning him and that's not good for bonding & strengthening trust with him."

When approaching a new spirit from CH, I trust in the conjurers ability to bring me a spirit that is compatible with me, and who will not harm me. We know that deception with harmful intents to the keeper is highly unlikely with CH bindings. Then it makes you reflect inwardly to see how much you are already projecting ideas of deception onto a spirit which might have your best interest in mind , before they have even arrived. Of course some spirits come to us in order to help us with these issues. Sometimes they know us before their vessel has even been purchased. Many of them want to see us grow and evolve. I'm sure your beautiful Gregori will offer you support and guidance in many areas as you grow and evolve. I am under the belief that all beings have a purpose even if we can't readily see it.

Thanks so much for sharing about yours. My favourite part... HE IS A BRILLIANT AND ATTENTIVE FRIEND WHO WILL GIVE YOU INSPIRATION AND SUPPORT WHEN IT COMES TO DISCOVERY AND WORK WITH MAGICK, SPELLS, AND SUPPORTING A PATH OF HOPE, LEARNING, AND EXPLORING PERSONAL AWARENESS.

I love when it's comes through FRIEND or GUIDE. I guess, yours is a custom conjuration? I am still at loss knowing what is a freebie spirit stone conjuration is exactly? My strongest hunch is an unbound, who might have been, when Ash asked around, he put his hands up to join me in my journey. I don't think he is my OWN unbound, because he wasn't read for me in my recent order. That's when I got other Divine Dragon and my Psy Vamp came through as well.

SO, JUST TO STAY ON TOPIC... indeed you got a short description of about his cloak color, handy to seeing him. Interestingly, definitely a Watcher's style, wearing a cloak seem to have a common fashion appearance. I have 4 the Tower Watchers (white art) and each has a different colour cloak. That made me think, I wonder if they look similar under their cloaks with each other and similar to the Gregori watcher?

Thank you for being an excellent forum friend as I have already increased with high anticipation to recive my Gregori Watcher and start to get to know him. I don't think his vessel is bridged to me. I really do not pick upon him at all. It maybe it's a low level class, 5 or under. I don't know. Time will tell. Have a great weekend mate.

Sysygy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:28 pm He sounds wonderful! I love reading the descriptions. Sounds like you have a great protector. I know that many of my DA beings (vampires) have this sort of quality, the ability to charm others can also be used in positive ways. They can help calm down suspicion directed at him , (and you) in this way, so perhaps his natural ability to charm will help you to relax. Though it can also be used in predatory ways to harm, I think it's unlikely that he would use it in that manner against you or your keep to cause harm . And if he tries, well... You have a boatload of angels and dragons who will spank him. So . There's that lol If you're still worried about it, your rules (which states no harm) should cover it as well.
I thought since you shared your Gregoris description that I would share mine as a courtesy.
=GREGORI WATCHER, HE MANIFESTS IN A DARK-BROWN CLOAK. HE IS A VERY EXCITING AND POWERFUL FRIEND WHO WILL GIVE YOU CONSIDERABLE ADVICE AND SUPPORT WHEN WORKING WITH DARKER FIELDS OF MAGICK AND POWER. HE IS A BRILLIANT AND ATTENTIVE FRIEND WHO WILL GIVE YOU INSPIRATION AND SUPPORT WHEN IT COMES TO DISCOVERY AND WORK WITH MAGICK, SPELLS, AND SUPPORTING A PATH OF HOPE, LEARNING, AND EXPLORING PERSONAL AWARENESS. HE IS QUICK TO GIVE YOU SUPPORT IN YOUR PERSONAL GOALS AND HELP YOU UNDERSTAND THE PATH YOU CAN EXPLORE WHEN IT COMES TO UNDERSTANDING AND WORKING WITH YOUR SENSE OF IDENTITY, POWER, AND DISCOVERY IN ALL FORMS OF MAGICK. HE WANTS YOU TO CHALLENGE YOURSELF AND LIFT YOUR MAGICKAL GIFTS TO A NEW LEVEL OF MASTERY AND INFLUENCE.

ASTER wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:34 am Thank you SYSYGY, I like your rambling love your bond with your Gregori Watcher.
I guess, I am reading things into this lovely intro, before he even arrived to me. I agree, I probably projecting my own fear that actually was a heart break in my love life with a very close friend /professional who was everything to me, but turned out, he was just doing his duty with passion. This man was deceptive with me, and was very romantic with sexual looks and vibes and totally messed with me emotionally for many years. Therefore, I am very protective of myself when it's comes to love ect. Maybe exactly what I need. He will protect me for real. Anyway, I think, I am over it now.
Below is his notes. What do you think? This is the freebies spirit stone. So maybe he is an unbond or I don't know. But not a CC.

13 = GREGORI WATCHER, MALE, xxxx, HE IS A DARK & CLEVER COMPANION WHO IS QUICK TO PROTECT AGAINST ANY THREAT. HE IS SENSUAL & SEDUCTIVE, AND IS INTIMIDATING & FEARSOME TOWARDS OUTSIDERS. HE IS FILLED WITH AN ETHEREAL GRACE & ROMANCE, AND CAN BE DECEPTIVELY CHARMING, ESPECIALLY WITH YOU, AND OTHERS IN YOUR KEEP.

Sysygy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 7:19 am

Regarding this;

"I think, a Gregori Watcher has a strong deceptive, passion, although mine was described romantic. That is not the same as lust for sex. I hope, they have a bit of various shades of darkness, on the scale within grey and some of them are having a less deceptive trens with more truth and transparency. That is my hope with my own Gregori. Otherwise, I will constantly have to discerning him and that's not good for bonding & strengthening trust with him."

When approaching a new spirit from CH, I trust in the conjurers ability to bring me a spirit that is compatible with me, and who will not harm me. We know that deception with harmful intents to the keeper is highly unlikely with CH bindings. Then it makes you reflect inwardly to see how much you are already projecting ideas of deception onto a spirit which might have your best interest in mind , before they have even arrived. Of course some spirits come to us in order to help us with these issues. Sometimes they know us before their vessel has even been purchased. Many of them want to see us grow and evolve. I'm sure your beautiful Gregori will offer you support and guidance in many areas as you grow and evolve. I am under the belief that all beings have a purpose even if we can't readily see it.

Yes my Gregori was a custom conjuration. I'm not sure how CH freebies work. I got a dragon freebie once during dragon week. Upon waiting for his vesel to arrive I did not pick up on him at all. Usually 9/10 I will have a dream as my new spirit or entity is on their way to me. I had no dream about him, and when he arrived I did not recognize him or his energy from any unbound around my home. I have been working with many unbound dragons and he is very different from all of them.


I suppose when you spend time with your new friend you can discover for yourself what he looks like, and compare it to my Gregori watchers description. You could even ask him your questions, or even ask your tower watchers. Would be interesting to know.

I'm happy to discuss things together with you.
And thanks, you have a great weekend too.