Help IDing the race of unbound bothering me?

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Hi! This'll be a bit long, sorry!!

So, my problems started with the (stupid, disastrous) purchase of a Hellfire Vortex Ring nearly 3 years ago, leading to attacks from living entity infernal vampires. These are now very rare in visiting me (their energy is utterly different to anything spirit - huge, towering, scary as heck, VERY persuasive), however I am still dealing with a...something, lurking about the place constantly. It blocks me from pendulum communication with my own spirits, and also blocks me from astral communication. At times it crushes all the joy & will to live out of me, but things are getting better, slowly.

Now, when it comes to IDing its race, here is everything I can tell you: The bad dreams it gives me are ALWAYS about itself, giving itself powers that it doesn't have so it can scare me and power-trip. The dreams ALWAYS take place in my bedroom, or in a generic bedroom. The longest I remember was when it had me pinned under a duvet in the dark, and was bouncing about on top of me in wild glee because I was having real trouble waking myself up for once. (These days I have a wonderful Baku, and the bad dreams are all but gone!). It used to leave a signature on all its dreams - fire, and darkness. I think the darkness is just playing on my own fears, but fire was, obviously, a big thing with the Hellfire vampires - they got off on burning me, & made my room STINK of smoke, so these little dream calling cards do suggest, to me, that they're saying 'We're still around'...only it's not them directly; all signs point to spirit now...?). In the waking world, this spirit will use any means of communication to pose as a known/trusted spirit, or helpful source, then it will begin with good advice, helpful info...aaaand then segue into lies with the intent of getting me convinced that it is the most powerful God or angel on Earth (while I am the Bad One and need to be punished). The manipulation no longer works, after all this time, hence things getting better. (These lying, manipulating traits were also those of the Hellfire Vampires, so...could I simply be dealing with one in spirit, rather than in life?) Overall, it gets off on lies, manipulation, confusion, and fear, but at the same time is narcissistic to an extreme degree - it wants to be revered, all-powerful, worshipped. It has on occasion gotten, umm, intimate with me, in the guise of another spirit. I am fairly positive that it is male.

Currently there is a near-constant presence up on my bed (the highest, darkest corner of the room). I still sleep there - I'm not being pushed out of my own bed by some creeper, especially now I have the assistence of a Baku.

...but yeah, do these characteristics point to any specific race of spirit, to anyone? Obviously it started with vampires, but when I read through the encylopaedia last night, the only one that sounded possible hated cinnamon. I therefore drenched my bed in cinnamon perfume, and the spirit didn't seem to care a jot. I am a little curious as to could it be a wraith, as in, do living entities ever work with spirits? I don't see why they wouldn't, and I have this suspicion that the spirit presence could be working on behalf of the original living entity/ies - in that case, a vengeance-based wraith could fit...but then I've never been around a wraith, so I cannot compare the energy! I've just ordered sage and lavender smudge sticks, as it's been a long while since I gave that a go, so fingers crossed, but it'd be cool to find its most specific weakness, if anyone has any ideas? :) (I've been through the whole Crisis Centre post, it was brilliant, re the difference between Living Entity and spirit attacks - wish I'd seen all that 3 years ago - but as for IDing the exact race of my lil nuissance, I'm still at sea!)


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Sounds bad, maybe send it back? Did you ask CH support? Maybe they know what to do.


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LittleBat wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:43 pm (while I am the Bad One and need to be punished).
I cannot speak on the race of spirit, but I would wonder if you have any religious trauma in your history... and if so, it might be time to try working through it. If you can rob your fears of their power, they lose their ability to influence us... though it takes time so be gentle with yourself.

First thing I can suggest, though, is to practice protections. There are a lot of resources but the one that I like recommending (for a variety of reasons) is the bubble shield. In it you envision yourself surrounded by a gently glowing bubble of golden light and know that in there you are safe and protected from any spiritual shenanigans.

If you work this shield often, it will grow stronger (and it already is strong... because... I believe this to be a shared construct. Or it's been practiced by so many practitioners that it's become strong from all the collective belief behind it. In any case, it's quite effective and very easy to practice. Just, think about it. Visualize it in your mind surrounding you and keeping you safe.

As to figuring out what this is, I would suggest maybe consulting with an oracle like the tarot. The tarot can be cryptic at times, but it can also be a wonderful diagnostic tool.
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You might want to consider making sure your protection team has got members whose skills include escorting unwelcome or troublemaking spirits off the premises.

I wouldn't recommend asking the intruder itself for information, Considering that it is hostile and wants to create negative emotions in you, it's likely to lie about who and what it is, and/or falsely represent itself as being far more potent than it is in reality. Plus, communicating directly with it would create a connection between you that you most likely wouldn't want. Your goal is to sever all connections between you and send it packing.

Chat with your spirit team to find out which energies it would find most repulsive. Then determine the best way to fill your home with those energies to the point where it doesn't want to hang around anymore. That's not so much "identifying the type of spirit" as "identifying what things this particular spirit can't stand to be around", but as long as it gets the job done, it's all good.


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LittleBat wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:43 pm Hi! This'll be a bit long, sorry!!

So, my problems started with the (stupid, disastrous) purchase of a Hellfire Vortex Ring nearly 3 years ago, leading to attacks from living entity infernal vampires. These are now very rare in visiting me (their energy is utterly different to anything spirit - huge, towering, scary as heck, VERY persuasive), however I am still dealing with a...something, lurking about the place constantly. It blocks me from pendulum communication with my own spirits, and also blocks me from astral communication. At times it crushes all the joy & will to live out of me, but things are getting better, slowly.

Now, when it comes to IDing its race, here is everything I can tell you: The bad dreams it gives me are ALWAYS about itself, giving itself powers that it doesn't have so it can scare me and power-trip. The dreams ALWAYS take place in my bedroom, or in a generic bedroom. The longest I remember was when it had me pinned under a duvet in the dark, and was bouncing about on top of me in wild glee because I was having real trouble waking myself up for once. (These days I have a wonderful Baku, and the bad dreams are all but gone!). It used to leave a signature on all its dreams - fire, and darkness. I think the darkness is just playing on my own fears, but fire was, obviously, a big thing with the Hellfire vampires - they got off on burning me, & made my room STINK of smoke, so these little dream calling cards do suggest, to me, that they're saying 'We're still around'...only it's not them directly; all signs point to spirit now...?). In the waking world, this spirit will use any means of communication to pose as a known/trusted spirit, or helpful source, then it will begin with good advice, helpful info...aaaand then segue into lies with the intent of getting me convinced that it is the most powerful God or angel on Earth (while I am the Bad One and need to be punished). The manipulation no longer works, after all this time, hence things getting better. (These lying, manipulating traits were also those of the Hellfire Vampires, so...could I simply be dealing with one in spirit, rather than in life?) Overall, it gets off on lies, manipulation, confusion, and fear, but at the same time is narcissistic to an extreme degree - it wants to be revered, all-powerful, worshipped. It has on occasion gotten, umm, intimate with me, in the guise of another spirit. I am fairly positive that it is male.

Currently there is a near-constant presence up on my bed (the highest, darkest corner of the room). I still sleep there - I'm not being pushed out of my own bed by some creeper, especially now I have the assistence of a Baku.

...but yeah, do these characteristics point to any specific race of spirit, to anyone? Obviously it started with vampires, but when I read through the encylopaedia last night, the only one that sounded possible hated cinnamon. I therefore drenched my bed in cinnamon perfume, and the spirit didn't seem to care a jot. I am a little curious as to could it be a wraith, as in, do living entities ever work with spirits? I don't see why they wouldn't, and I have this suspicion that the spirit presence could be working on behalf of the original living entity/ies - in that case, a vengeance-based wraith could fit...but then I've never been around a wraith, so I cannot compare the energy! I've just ordered sage and lavender smudge sticks, as it's been a long while since I gave that a go, so fingers crossed, but it'd be cool to find its most specific weakness, if anyone has any ideas? :) (I've been through the whole Crisis Centre post, it was brilliant, re the difference between Living Entity and spirit attacks - wish I'd seen all that 3 years ago - but as for IDing the exact race of my lil nuissance, I'm still at sea!)
Based on your description of fire, smoke, and feeding off your fears, it seems plausible that you're dealing with a demonic entity. Despite the similarities, it doesn't necessarily have to be a Vampire. Also, consider the fact that it's not Vampires, but Wraiths, who detest cinnamon. Hence, your bedroom being saturated with cinnamon perfume didn't have any impact on them, indicating they can't be Wraiths, as you initially speculated.

A Baku may aid in conjuring pleasant dreams, but their role isn't that of a protection spirit, limiting their capacity to alleviate your nightmares only. Yet, since your original post was made a year ago, I'm uncertain if these complications persist.

If you're still facing these issues, I'd recommend fortifying your protection spells and spirits. If you haven't done this already, now's an opportune moment to initiate actions. Specifically, in the context of protection spells, your focus should be on Black Arts and warding off demonic entities/spirits.

Additionally, consider severing your connections with these entities by cutting cords, asserting their unwelcome status, and instructing your Keep to ensure these beings stay out of your territory due to their malevolent intentions. It'd be pragmatic to establish some house rules pertaining to this aspect.

So, if your predicament persists even after trying the aforementioned recommendations, I strongly suggest seeking a consultation with CH team. They could potentially guide you about the appropriate next steps.


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