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Re: READ MY VESSEL THREADS

Postby Inedible » Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:48 am

Some days I think about buying a bunch of cheap stones and selling them as spells and Spirits. I can always tell people it is their own fault if they don't get results. Most of my customers would try so hard to get results that they will anyway. I don't do it because I worry about this happening to me. Even with a reputable seller, often there just aren't enough hours in the day to get everything done with the full amount of attention it deserves. These things do take time. We really do need a way to verify that customers are getting what they pay for, and one that doesn't depend on the buyer or seller. Anyone with a financial stake in the matter is going to want to be able to say it works as intended, whether spell or Spirit. I guess the problem is that asking random people here for help doesn't work and just clogs up the boards.



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Re: READ MY VESSEL THREADS

Postby creepyhollows » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:48 pm

A reminder we do not encourage vessel reading threads on here.

In addition to all the reasons explained in the first thread it can cause confusion, hard feelings, and issues (especially when other sellers' items are involved).


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Re: READ MY VESSEL THREADS

Postby Huffette » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:36 pm

Inedible wrote:Some days I think about buying a bunch of cheap stones and selling them as spells and Spirits. I can always tell people it is their own fault if they don't get results. Most of my customers would try so hard to get results that they will anyway. I don't do it because I worry about this happening to me. Even with a reputable seller, often there just aren't enough hours in the day to get everything done with the full amount of attention it deserves. These things do take time. We really do need a way to verify that customers are getting what they pay for, and one that doesn't depend on the buyer or seller. Anyone with a financial stake in the matter is going to want to be able to say it works as intended, whether spell or Spirit. I guess the problem is that asking random people here for help doesn't work and just clogs up the boards.


Actually, this would not be a good idea. Someone such as myself might get one of these vessels, and you would be quickly discovered. I can readily tell if a stone is spirited or not.


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Re: READ MY VESSEL THREADS

Postby Likes2Read » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:38 pm

creepyhollows wrote:A reminder we do not encourage vessel reading threads on here.

In addition to all the reasons explained in the first thread it can cause confusion, hard feelings, and issues (especially when other sellers' items are involved).

I can understand why the reading of vessels is Frowned Upon, particularly in the aftermath of reader(s) doing that and causing lots of drama.

But what about posting photos and asking for feedback on items we are creating? So far, I haven't seen anything but honest and constructive responses to threads like those. I'm hoping we can continue to offer feedback to one another's creations, since a lot of us might not have face-to-face practitioners we can consult.


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Postby krishandry » Fri Feb 28, 2014 3:28 pm

There are so many FAKE conjurers/sellers that scam people specially a newbie or someone that didn't have any ability to see or feel spirits, that's why sometimes we need help from someone to read the vessels

We can't rely to any feedback left for the seller because we don't know exactly who left the feedback, maybe the seller it's self left positive feedbacks using his/her another accounts.

After I have a good experiences with the sellers/conjurers, I'll be back to buy from them again ( ie Ash & Magnolia ~ CH, Jules & Lisa ) :U

I hope my comment didn't make any good & genuine conjurers/sellers angry/mad 8|

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Re: READ MY VESSEL THREADS

Postby creepyhollows » Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:36 pm

For us, once bitten, twice shy. I can understand the need for wanting feedback on vessels, but the issues are these:

- most the time the answers to a photo thread are answers spread across the board. You receive everyone's best guesses, but they rarely match. Which only causes further confusion and if someone bought a Unicorn, and people are answering Phoenix, Gargoyle, Faery, or (god forbid) Demon then the person who posted the picture starts to question the authenticity of their spirit. Which may not need to be called into question because perhaps the spirit simply didn't want lots of people prying into their personal space.

- to continue with the scenario above, if the seller's name is listed it can cause people who don't know anything about spirit bindings to question the authenticity of the seller because no one is capable of guessing the right answer

- and, on the extreme side, which HAS happened here before, and I know several other Forums who continue to offer vessel readings have spawned this problem as well, you get someone who tells people their vessels really contain demons, or curses, and they frighten the people into buying services. And, I'm not talking about the sellers who own the Forums, I'm talking about members who are dealing off the side and I don't believe in two cases the Forum owners are even aware this is going on. It only took it happening once on Creepy Hollows for us to put the nix on vessel readings.

It's unfortunate but the honest & forthright in the community aren't the only occupants, there are people who are driven by dishonest motives around us.


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Re: READ MY VESSEL THREADS

Postby Ashino Tsume roshi » Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:06 pm

I take a very simple position, and that is I am fully responsible for all my actions, and as a meditation, I focus on trying to balance within myself the 3 Immeausrables of Compassion, Wisdom, and Power. By doing this, it truly keeps me in the condition of "always continuously learning', maintaining self-protection, working with others with whom I chose, and loving in a continuous way. Added is keeping my own Sense of Wonder alive. Also, I believe that within each of us, there is a need for self to use all the afforsaid to create some unique love relationship with the universe.

This is not off the topic, but adds to it by also discussing things on multiple levels simultaneously. The challenge here is to continuosly see and embrace the challenge of conscious, simultaneous multiple vision, and this activity can feel quite different for each of us, and thus transcend those aspects of need that cloud vision. This was how, some unnamed woman learned how to use, create, and control, fire, at the Thames Basin around 1,000,000 BC. And now back to the regularly scheduled programs.

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Re: READ MY VESSEL THREADS

Postby krishandry » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:39 am

creepyhollows wrote:For us, once bitten, twice shy. I can understand the need for wanting feedback on vessels, but the issues are these:

- most the time the answers to a photo thread are answers spread across the board. You receive everyone's best guesses, but they rarely match. Which only causes further confusion and if someone bought a Unicorn, and people are answering Phoenix, Gargoyle, Faery, or (god forbid) Demon then the person who posted the picture starts to question the authenticity of their spirit. Which may not need to be called into question because perhaps the spirit simply didn't want lots of people prying into their personal space.

- to continue with the scenario above, if the seller's name is listed it can cause people who don't know anything about spirit bindings to question the authenticity of the seller because no one is capable of guessing the right answer

- and, on the extreme side, which HAS happened here before, and I know several other Forums who continue to offer vessel readings have spawned this problem as well, you get someone who tells people their vessels really contain demons, or curses, and they frighten the people into buying services. And, I'm not talking about the sellers who own the Forums, I'm talking about members who are dealing off the side and I don't believe in two cases the Forum owners are even aware this is going on. It only took it happening once on Creepy Hollows for us to put the nix on vessel readings.

It's unfortunate but the honest & forthright in the community aren't the only occupants, there are people who are driven by dishonest motives around us.


Yes, you are right, each person that can see or feel spirits or energy have different skill, that's why there are so many reading results or guesses for a vessel.

I only want to know is my vessel contain an energy or spirits .
Sometimes I asked more than 1 person to read the vessel if the vessel reading didn't give any good results, such as there is no spirit in the vessel, I'll not buy from the vessel seller anymore
If the vessel reader give a match (or nearly match) description with the seller's infomation, I'll be ask the vessel reader help again & I'll buy again from the vessel seller :)

About the person who tells people their vessels really contain demons, or curses, and they frighten the people into buying services, maybe it's their purpose to make the people/buyer to NOT buy from some sellers, want to ruin another seller's good reputations or maybe worst.
This nasty person didn't know what the meaning of KARMA, let's wait & see what will happen to this person :devil:

PS: Actually, I have some demons/devils in my keep & I don't mind my vessels contains a demon/devil as long they obey & can help me in my life :U



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Re: READ MY VESSEL THREADS

Postby jellybean » Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:45 am

I only want to know is my vessel contain an energy or spirits .
Sometimes I asked more than 1 person to read the vessel if the vessel reading didn't give any good results, such as there is no spirit in the vessel, I'll not buy from the vessel seller anymore
If the vessel reader give a match (or nearly match) description with the seller's infomation, I'll be ask the vessel reader help again & I'll buy again from the vessel seller

The problem with that is a lot of times the spirits don't want to appear to someone they don't know and the vessel might contain exactly what you were told it contains but because you can't feel it yet and because the spirit is hiding from whoever you have asked to read it, it will seem as if there is nothing there when really there is. So you're doing a disservice to the seller, to the spirit and to yourself.


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Re: READ MY VESSEL THREADS

Postby Likes2Read » Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:19 am

Just in case the question got buried -- how do the forum rules govern threads created by people, asking for feedback on their own magickal handiwork? I'm not talking about "is there a spirit in this vessel I bought, and if so, what is it". I mean magickal items that we ourselves have created, and are looking for people with experienced eyes, who can read photos, to offer their impressions of it. So far, I haven't seen any drama llamas come in and ruin threads like that, neither by accident nor by design.

I'm asking because there are a lot of people here who haven't got access to face-to-face mentors -- their only paranormally-active community is found online. So for those people to get feedback, it's going to have to be done online somehow.


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