Lady Jay wrote:I am glad to learn more about this "energetic turning" from you, it is interesting, what yoú have shared so far!
Honestly, beyond what happened to me, I don't have much to say. There was a blood exchange, and an exchange of... essence - a link was forged by blood and by power - and I went to sleep and awoke with a hunger, and random strangers in the physical world were suddenly hounding me, "feeling SO connected," it was just... weird and scary... in a stalker-not-fun kind of way. He went into torpor, and came out with faery wings just like mine, though the rest of him looked exactly the same... it does suggest that the Turning works both ways. Or at least, it did for us. He even gained the ability to create small glamouries. All of this occurred astrally, but as you see... it HAS had some interesting physical effects, at least on the energetic and psychological levels - even if my basic shell genetics haven't been altered at all.
But... that was he and I. And he was Ubi, not a sanguine or psychic vampire. I do know that vampiric hybrids are Turned in the same way... an energetic and a biological exchange (usually blood, as with Desire and I), but with Desire, barely a teaspoon of blood was involved, and again, he is an astral entity, and I was on the astral at the time the blood exchange took place. I don't know the amount of blood required to turn a human by a vampire not physically present in this realm.
Since I'm not a vampire, though I have spoken with many hybrids, born and turned, they've all been mules, unable to Turn others. The one sang I know tried it physically, and nothing happened. I've never met a psy that even considered it.
Truly, if you want that kind of information, I think you have to go directly to the source for it. Ubi may be cousins of both species of vampires, but... they tend to disavow that we all come from the same root and are merely twigs on the same branch. It was so long ago... the genealogy is rather... twisted, complex. There's actually a proto-species that came before the three of us that IS the root... but they're very, very rare, very private, almost extinct, and when I considered adding their species to the discussion, I was... very clearly warned not to mention them, by several rather irate sangs who were not above making sure I knew my place. lol
I took their advice, and only dealt with the three cousins, not the original progenitor of the species' and not the proto-form. I also left out second cousins, like hags, and other species that are like feeders, such as wraiths, demons, angels, and can change humans, but aren't connected as far as I can tell genetically, to the vampiric family tree.
I can remind everyone of the ancient adage - "As Above, So Below" - that which happens on the spiritual plane or the astral plane DOES slowly sift down into the physical plane to have an energetic effect here... just as what happens here slowly sifts upwards to create changes there. We've all done enough research, just on this board alone, to know that gods change over time, and whether they merely shift with the times, or we shift them with our faith doesn't matter... the web is so interwoven that whatever happens anywhere, affects everywhere. It is the web of Wyrd.
If you change your essence on the astral or spiritual planes... sooner or later... it will change you here. It's just not as dramatic... and unless you really, really know what you're doing... it usually doesn't work out right. Humans are meant to be human, not hybrids, not vampires, not ubi... human. And no, I'm not being specieist... I'm simply stating that psychologically speaking, we are seldom ready for the ride, and we only notice that we're not belted in when we reach the top of the drop off. By that time, saying oops, I want to get off now is... a bit of an impossibility.
Bright blessings...
Selqet
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