I am so confused by this thread. your assumption of me find it amusing, has nothing to do with my agreeing with an earlier reply. however, how can you propose something and ask that it not be an option for others, just because you, one person, don't like it? this is a general question, in regards to your proposal or to anyone that would make such a proposal on any subject due to their personal feelings on said subject. it's asinine, honestly!!

Nocturna wrote:I am so confused by this thread. your assumption of me find it amusing, has nothing to do with my agreeing with an earlier reply. however, how can you propose something and ask that it not be an option for others, just because you, one person, don't like it? this is a general question, in regards to your proposal or to anyone that would make such a proposal on any subject due to their personal feelings on said subject. it's asinine, honestly!!

I also don't understand why C would think you found it amusing, whether you were being serious or not. But I found his response really offensive. He pretends to be sticking up for the underdog or whatever, then he goes and makes a comment that indicates he has absolutely no empathy at all. (Phobias of clowns are serious stuff. One 6 yo boy who went to the same after school centre as my son 10 years ago became so distressed when a clown came to entertain his class that he had to be hospitalised & sedated. No one had any idea up til then, poor kid.) Not only that, but Merch made an earlier comment about also banning monkey & spider pictures & he's ignored that.

It seems that C likes to make belittling comments to people who disagree with him in some way and try to turn it back on them as if they are the ones at fault.

Okay I was a little bit nervous about posting on such a hot topic, but what I think is not using such extreme pictures as part of a joke or making fun of what it shows!!! That I do find offensive and in bad taste, for having been the victim of such violence,(rape and beatings, stabbing, getting shot at and barely being missed), I don't find it funny!!!!

There have been many pictures of violence, in pictures, movies, videos, books, cartoons, we see it everyday!!!! Sometimes I think we become immune to it all!!!!

I remember reading the book Exodus, about what happened in the Nazis camps that they had, and what they did to those people was just horrible, as some of you saw in some of the pictures that Magnolia and Ash had posted!!! In the book is was very graphic and not something that I would ever post here, just not a good idea!!!

I think we have enough violence in the world today, don't you? Just my thoughts!!!

starfire :dragons::

starfire wrote:Okay I was a little bit nervous about posting on such a hot topic, but what I think is not using such extreme pictures as part of a joke or making fun of what it shows!!! That I do find offensive and in bad taste, for having been the victim of such violence,(rape and beatings, stabbing, getting shot at and barely being missed), I don't find it funny!!!!

There have been many pictures of violence, in pictures, movies, videos, books, cartoons, we see it everyday!!!! Sometimes I think we become immune to it all!!!!

I remember reading the book Exodus, about what happened in the Nazis camps that they had, and what they did to those people was just horrible, as some of you saw in some of the pictures that Magnolia and Ash had posted!!! In the book is was very graphic and not something that I would ever post here, just not a good idea!!!

I think we have enough violence in the world today, don't you? Just my thoughts!!!

starfire :dragons::

I agree, that, yes there is enough violence everywhere. However, in what I said, and not just pertaining to this particular subject only, why should others not be able to post something because of one persons view on the subject or because they don't like it or don't want to see it. I do believe that others feelings should be taken into consideration and not blantently disregarded; however for one person to request a ban on a forum as large as CH, of any type, is truly asinine. I mean I would understand if it was inappropriate things or illegal things, but I mean really. I dunno, just my two cents for whatever it's worth. lol

Nocturna wrote:

starfire wrote:Okay I was a little bit nervous about posting on such a hot topic, but what I think is not using such extreme pictures as part of a joke or making fun of what it shows!!! That I do find offensive and in bad taste, for having been the victim of such violence,(rape and beatings, stabbing, getting shot at and barely being missed), I don't find it funny!!!!

There have been many pictures of violence, in pictures, movies, videos, books, cartoons, we see it everyday!!!! Sometimes I think we become immune to it all!!!!

I remember reading the book Exodus, about what happened in the Nazis camps that they had, and what they did to those people was just horrible, as some of you saw in some of the pictures that Magnolia and Ash had posted!!! In the book is was very graphic and not something that I would ever post here, just not a good idea!!!

I think we have enough violence in the world today, don't you? Just my thoughts!!!

starfire :dragons::

I agree, that, yes there is enough violence everywhere. However, in what I said, and not just pertaining to this particular subject only, why should others not be able to post something because of one persons view on the subject or because they don't like it or don't want to see it. I do believe that others feelings should be taken into consideration and not blantently disregarded; however for one person to request a ban on a forum as large as CH, of any type, is truly asinine. I mean I would understand if it was inappropriate things or illegal things, but I mean really. I dunno, just my two cents for whatever it's worth. lol

Well as for me, and I have done this quite a few times, if I come across something that I would rather not read or a picture I would rather not look at, then I just don't, because in a forum this big, there are going to be things that we don't like, and some will say they don't like it and quite frankly that is their right to voice how they feel, while others will just move on to something different!!!!

If it is really ugly and not right, then I am sure Magnolia or Ash will make sure it is taken down!!!

Of course then the question is why post it in the first place if you know others will not like it and find it offensive in the first place, what is to be gained by that?

There is no easy answer, I could see if it was done like Magnolia and Ash did with the pictures that they posted, but for a joke or as something funny, that I don't get, and I am just being honest is all!!! Oh your two cents is worth a lot!!!! :thumbup:

starfire :dragons::

In my opinion the biggest opposition to it should be...opposition into tricking people into seeing it or not giving others an opportunity not to see it. For example using misleading thread titles, or posting it in a thread that people are replying to and it only being slightly on the topic. If we had spoiler tags, we could ask for people posting it in an existing thread to use them and then someone would have to CLICK to see it.
Basically I am trying to say is that if you require warnings, or specifically saying what the person is about to see, there should be nobody not wanting to see it seeing it. This is the best "middle ground" option I can see. You slightly inconvenience those wanting to share the images, and the ones that don't want to see that stuff simple don't have to see it. Sure it isn't perfect. But this counter suggestion is a compromise of sorts.

Sriman Prajapati Das wrote:

Noctifera wrote:

Sriman Prajapati Das wrote:As for the quid...it was being dismembered while living and looking at the person who was enjoy this lunch.

Where? Can't find it, or any other inappropriate displays. Link?

So I guess if a squid is dead it's okay then, right? Some people eat squid. I have.
We also tend to boil lobsters alive..

I'm genuinely curious, is all. Whether I will have to stifle my unique sense of humor, beauty, interest in human nature and preference for horror flicks, once the ban comes about. Given that your relative sense of the above is exaggeratedly opposed to mine.

Any elaborating the whole issue into a cloudy confusion, misses the point....The definitions are quite clear. I am sure that everyone on the Forum does understand what they say and mean. It reminds me of debating at Harvard, and waiting for someone talking to me wth the asking of a million questions about something that is up for conversation..the questions being crafted to bring to the fore a dizzying number of ambiguities that we face everyday, almost without thing...but in this case slow down the mental perceptors with a quite denad to walk through all the ambiguation as a proof that the obvious is correct. In turn, .that enclouds the issue while the enclouding sytetments are quite clear. Clever. But feel free to say anything on my post. The definitions do stand, are clear.

No, the definitions AREN'T clear. I, for one, am a fan of black humor and have been known to make a number of sexist jokes at any given point about men... does that offend the sensibilities of the typical male? Maybe a small number do take issue with my rants that men belong in the kitchen, cooking and cleaning... but clearly anyone who knows me knows I"m doing this to mock the ridiculousness of gender stereotypes and the fact that women were stuck with this defined role for the last 50 years or so. If I were to put up a photo of a man in boxer briefs scrubbing pots and getting ready to make my dinner, would this be offensive? I mean, it's a slippery slope...

This "ban" is clearly "ugly" and goes against even your own socialist tendencies and love of free speech. Any restrictions on free speech requires an extremely high standard under the U.S. Supreme Court and has to be balanced against safety of the public. And before anyone (Cai) starts up a debate about public safety and how inflammatory images can jeopardize public safety, don't make me point to the parent advisory committees that were so dang popular with the right wingers throughout history, first aimed at inflammatory books (that were banned by the government) and later at video games and music with explicit lyrics about violence and sex... do you endorse these efforts at censorship? If so, carry on with your campaign about banning certain images on CH.. if not, take stock of the following images:

THESE links have lead to the much protest by our beatnik and the current thread requesting a ban on pictoral "ugliness":

http://www.creepyhollows.com/phpBB3/vie ... hilit=cake

Cake... octopus shaped of icing reaching from the cake... Caiyros alleges this to be a real squid/octopus buried underneath (as he has already articulated in this thread).

http://www.creepyhollows.com/phpBB3/vie ... an#p452445

Kool Aid man... Caiyros says this lampoons the Jonestown Massacre where kids were given spiked Kool Aid. Those of my generation and younger (I'm 32 now, kids, so I"m not even considered "young") didn't even know this happened at Jonestown.

http://www.creepyhollows.com/phpBB3/vie ... r&start=30

Animals killing animals... Cai objects to this... the linked Youtube video is that of the infamous "Honey badger don't give a <<Removed by Mod>> " with a honey badger engaged in normal honey badger activities of tearing snakes to shreds for dinner... narrated by a flaming gay man.

As you can see, none of these images relate to actual posted imagery of mass murder, death and suffering except for perhaps the psyche's own connection to these themes.

I rest my case... and hopefully this foolishness ends too.

*pulls sleeves up*

Let's put this "debate" and campaign about pictoral ugliness on CH to rest, once and for all. I'm ready. This leftist liberal is ready to scrap.

Bottom line: Don't like it, don't go into the thread. Don't comment, don't derail. Don't harass people who find it funny and make grossly exaggerated commentary about their lack of character and decency. If you want sterilized humor, go to Disney dot com.

the post your referring to...wasn't it posted in "off-topic, randomness"
it doesn't have anything to do with learning, or historical value...etc
but it doesn't have to

don't let your self be offended...you're giving way too much power to an internet meme

starfire wrote:Okay I was a little bit nervous about posting on such a hot topic, but what I think is not using such extreme pictures as part of a joke or making fun of what it shows!!! That I do find offensive and in bad taste, for having been the victim of such violence,(rape and beatings, stabbing, getting shot at and barely being missed), I don't find it funny!!!!

There have been many pictures of violence, in pictures, movies, videos, books, cartoons, we see it everyday!!!! Sometimes I think we become immune to it all!!!!

I remember reading the book Exodus, about what happened in the Nazis camps that they had, and what they did to those people was just horrible, as some of you saw in some of the pictures that Magnolia and Ash had posted!!! In the book is was very graphic and not something that I would ever post here, just not a good idea!!!

I think we have enough violence in the world today, don't you? Just my thoughts!!!

starfire :dragons::

Perfectly valid, but the links I provided in question, which were the basis for Caiyros' objections in the first place, do not glorify violence.... and the final point is, we don't have anyone in our community who endorses true violence against people... and or if we do, they hover on the fringes (publicly). We are decent people, and black humor itself has no correlation to psychopathic tendencies... (otherwise I'd be locked up with a couple of bodies still stashed under my bed).