Enact Leelah's Law

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Enact Leelah's Law

Postby Zero » Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:13 am

If you'd like to do something very, very simple, to help make life a little bit, even just a teensy weeny bit easier, for trans youth, please sign this petition to BAN conversion therapy.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/enact-leelahs-law-ban-all-lgbtq-conversion-therapy/QPbYj38G


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Re: Enact Leelah's Law

Postby Drake » Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:35 am

Not sure how banning this "therapy" would help, wouldn't parents like that just find other, perhaps more drastic ways, of dealing with it?
Sides in this case, the conversion therapy doesn't even seem to be something specific, couldn't people just take advantage of the child abuse laws?

Maybe what's needed is some form of acceptance therapy.


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Re: Enact Leelah's Law

Postby Zero » Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:52 am

Banning this therapy would mean that therapists could not force, by means of medical intervention, mental 're-programming', or even by religious intervention, a child/youth to accept and live as the gender they have been assigned and do not identify with.

On the subject of whether or not these instances could be counted as child abuse, with this law being passed, it may help. A parent forcing their child to conform to an identity they are not is, in my book, a cruel abuse. If the therapy was banned, that would put a big signal out there to parents of trans youth that what they doing to their children by forcing them to convert is cruel, and children being abused in this way will be safer to seek help since they'll have law behind them. (of course, laws tend to be broken now... don't they? Ah, I've contradicted myself... oh well, it's the thought that counts?)

There already are acceptance therapies, however, parents can choose to send their children to either acceptance or conversion ones.


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Re: Enact Leelah's Law

Postby Drake » Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:01 am

So it's more about signaling a change of times, that makes sense.

And I meant acceptance therapy for the parents.


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Re: Enact Leelah's Law

Postby Zero » Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:06 am

Acceptance therapy for parents would be GREAT.


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Re: Enact Leelah's Law

Postby Huffette » Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:28 am

This story had a tragic ending. Unfortunately, the parents are so to blame in this teen's death. They should be made to see their methodologies to convert this child killed her. I agree measures need to be taken, but a law will not help until mainstream media gets involved and brings the issue to the forefront.


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Re: Enact Leelah's Law

Postby Ashino Tsume roshi » Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:31 pm

Banning it is fine and will give a good lawyer a better chance to "right" any future wrongs, BUT we need more, we need to apply redefinition to these processes used to destroy sexual & gender diversity - and here is the best way I can think of to really do a clampdown on these knuckle-dragging "nazis". First to get acquainted with and use the following in talk and writing:

Conversion Therapy is a euphemism for:
Brainwashing
Torture (and its subset Sleep Deprevation and Nutrient and Light and Dark depravation
Imprisonment

And demand that the psychiatric groups declaim it, and the teenager (minor) or adult (major) obviously right now have the rights to NOT BE TORTURED as it is a crime, and also ask why the studients out west were not given a life imprisonment without parole sentence for torturing and killing a gay teenager.

Also, parents who agree to this for their son or daughter should have all their children removed, and placed into some reasonable adoption system.

Also, the word "therapist" needs to be redefined as most "Therapists" merely are people with a Master's Degree in Social Work, and their "Bible" is the DSM-[whatever number] which is a g.d. BIOLLING MANUAL and that is all....I have seen some of the people who went to therapists with aa social masters degree, being MUCH worse off after going to these people. True therapy can be done by Psychiatrists and Psychologists, who are much smarter and better educated...For Instance, LGBT - All of these living forms, are NOT considered an illness since the 1950s-60s.


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Re: Enact Leelah's Law

Postby Ashino Tsume roshi » Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:44 pm

And to add on to this, many young people like to do things and are talented, in many areas, that have NOTHING TO DO WITH SOCCER - the most nasty, dangerous game in the worlkd (that is legally). How many kids, were verbally battered & humiliated, and made public mockery of because, lets say a boy wanted to play tennis, and a girl didn't want to date boys, and they were verbally and iphoneyly (LOL) pushed into the realm of at least contemplating suicide.


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Re: Enact Leelah's Law

Postby Instrument of the end fire083 » Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:53 pm

I've signed, petitions of this nature bring them to the media's attention


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Re: Enact Leelah's Law

Postby Likes2Read » Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:10 pm

We have people walking the earth right now who object to the notion that the moon reflects light from the sun, as it's against the Biblical statement that the Lord put two lights in the sky, the sun and moon. We have people who reject evolution and other scientific knowledge.

These are the people who are most likely to subject their LGBT children to rejection and/or brainwashing like so-called "conversion therapy". Not to mention, impress all manner of ugly opinions about non-heterosexuals that make the kids despise themselves, even if said kids have NOT come out to their families and been rejected.

So I am in favor of outlawing "conversion therapy". Too bad we can't outlaw treating your own kids like &#!+ because of the way they were BORN.


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