ServantofJustice wrote:Ryla Grey wrote:Serv, I think this is going down a bad road. Keep in mind not everyone is meant to work with demons. I would say working with them only to gain something is not a good starting point.
Well planning or thinking over it first doesn't necessarily mean you're going to do it right away, that would be still under consideration. The purpose of this thread is to discuss the nature of pacts and possible misconceptions.
There is one on the list that works with people who want to do wish-granting endeavors just for your info, I saw people who wanted things use their sigil on the forum it came from?
Did you just SERIOUSLY go from "How do I get rid of my darkness" to "I think I'll make pacts with demons without getting to know them"
\ OMFG No.
Just...
NO.
First of all, the people who use sigils for wish-granting do not just create a sigil and ask for something. They create a sigil with the entity that deals with the energies they want to invoke in their lives, and then they get to know the entity. They talk. They learn. They grow. They change.
Most entities aren't interested in just doing a task for you. They're interested in teaching you how to do it for yourself. If there's a block, if there's a lacking in understanding, whatever your issue is with any kind of energy, they're interested in teaching you how to fix the issue.
Do NOT create a sigil expecting that someone with a very busy astral life is just going to come fix your problems. Do not make pacts with someone you don't know.
Akelta is correct that the Goetic demons do not ask for your soul. That doesn't change the fact that they were once gods in their own right, and you don't just ask a god for favors unless you want it to go badly. And that's ANY god, not just the ones the Christian church demonized. You'll get two possible results - either you don't get anything that you ask for... or you get exactly what you asked for, no subtlety, no compensation for who you are or where you're at in life - you get what you asked for, and all the problems with it. ANY god will do that to you, not just these ones.
If you want to make a pact with a god, fine... but I seriously recommend you take your time to get to know them, and yourself... and let them get to know you, too.
And yes, I understand you say you no longer want to get rid of your 'darkness' - enough people came down on your head about that idea that you've decided either we're right, or you're just not going to be as open about it.
But the massive swing here from Right Hand Path thinking (darkness is evil, hide it under the rug and carve yourself up to escape it so you can meet imaginary ideals of perfection) to Lets Use Demon Kings Like Djinni -
Yeah... NO.
Slow down, son - you're making us nervous.
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