Tuatha De Danann: White or Dark?

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Re: Tuatha De Danann: White or Dark?

Postby wannabewitch » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:07 am

I just purchased a white arts fairy from creepy hollow. Are you saying they are all dangerous no matter who the seller is?



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Re: Tuatha De Danann: White or Dark?

Postby Catgirl2 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:55 am

I am trying to figure this one out! It seems like there some things that are conflicting, I am guessing that Fae's/Fairies are fine unless they are listed as Dark Arts!


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Re: Tuatha De Danann: White or Dark?

Postby darkwing dook » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:04 am

wannabewitch wrote:I just purchased a white arts fairy from creepy hollow. Are you saying they are all dangerous no matter who the seller is?

I took it as it's wise not to underestimate fae, whether WA or DA.


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Re: Tuatha De Danann: White or Dark?

Postby Lewk » Fri Aug 30, 2019 11:59 am

As the thread began discussing Tuatha de Danaan, I think it might be helpful to disentangle several different points:

- Not all faeries are Tuatha de Danaan see https://www.creepyhollows.com/faq/index.php?action=artikel&cat=3&id=905&artlang=en&highlight=tuatha

- CH faeries are classified as WA or DA.

- CH WA spirits do not harm their keepers and avoid doing harm, will not do wrong.

- CH DA spirits may choose to do wrong, like humans can.

- Tuatha de Danaan are classified in the CH Encyclopaedia as grey (DA). That is an overall grouping for that mythological race of spirits that existed at some point in Ireland, among whom you have the Gods of that epoch. Gods are usually classified as grey by CH. (The name Tuatha de Danaan means tribe of the gods.)

So:
- a WA faerie from CH is not a Tuatha de Danann deity and is not grey/DA
- WA don't do harm or wrong.

Nevertheless WA can be very powerful in defending their keeper (Courtwind Angels are a good example). This is different from choosing to do wrong or harm because you want to.

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Re: Tuatha De Danann: White or Dark?

Postby Instrument of the end fire083 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:06 pm

If you think white arts spirits cannot do harm to you think again. The difference is if any harm comes it won't be because they were intentionally harming you. It will be because they didn't take into account how this thing they did that was right could negatively impact you for a time.


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Re: Tuatha De Danann: White or Dark?

Postby Catgirl2 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:58 pm

OK-I think I am still a bit confused! I get what Darkwing had said about underestimating Fae because that is so true, but what I don't get is how to determine if the Fae is WA, DA or BA-I have four Fae's but only the Fire Faery I got from CH, my other three I got from another seller she described them as WA or a bit on the neutral side, she never gave me an exact description of them if they were TDD except that two were warrior Fae & one was a guardian type (two were from Ireland one from Wales) I have had them in my keep for about 8 years (before I found CH), I prefer not to say who the seller is because I don't want to start up any trouble or problems, but when I checked on it later on it was told to me that they were TDD most likely or a distant relative of them, which also brings what Lewk had pointed out too-when I checked the encyclopedia regarding the TDD, the description of my three I was unsure of closely resembles them! So other than contacting the seller I got them from-which is not an option due to the amount of time I had my Fae in my keep & the bonding process it would b best to find out on my own!


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Re: Tuatha De Danann: White or Dark?

Postby Catgirl2 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:15 pm

Which brings to the posts that was back from a few moths ago-I can say the one post from one member isn't a big fan of Fae of any kind but when I asked where they got their information they didn't respond-I wasn't trying to get in their face about it only wanted to be pointed in the right direction! I would have appreciated a response because I feel like we are all here for a reason & if we respond to a post be respectful about it & help out if asked!


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Re: Tuatha De Danann: White or Dark?

Postby darkwing dook » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:32 pm

Catgirl2 wrote:.., but what I don't get is how to determine if the Fae is WA, DA or BA-..

Mmh, I did have the same problem with CH's cwn annwn vs hound of annwn before. There usually are several options:
-Contact the conjurer and ask whether in general the race of that spirit won't choose to do harm, or can choose to harm or not.
-Ask the above question to the spirit you don't know WA or DA directly.
-Ask the above question to the spirit you trust the most, maybe master spirit etc., about the spirit you don't know WA or DA.
-Try comparison. Gather all the WA spirits in your keep, and recognize and memorize that certain WA energy they have. Then do the same with DA spirits in your keep. Next call the spirit you don't know WA or DA and see if they have energy similar to the WA or DA.


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Re: Tuatha De Danann: White or Dark?

Postby Rungr » Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:03 pm

Faeries are like humans, they have their nice ones, mean ones, and ones that are circumstantial, which pretty much any race of beings have. I honestly love working with the Seelie and Unseelie.


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Re: Tuatha De Danann: White or Dark?

Postby Catgirl2 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:25 pm

Thank you for sharing your experience darkwing-I do so appreciate it! I do believe some of it I already have my answer to by the advise you gave! The two Fae's I have from Ireland have more of a Dark Arts energy to them-they are Warrior type Fae & I was able to compare it to my Daemon & the energy level is similar to his-but my Fae that is from Wales appears to be somewhere between WA & DA-which I was able to compare it to my Fire Fae & he is a touch darker than her but lighter than the other two, so I am assuming he is some where in between or a grey area, or lighter on the DA spectrum! The seller I got the three from I do know for a fact doesn't sell anything dealing with the Black Arts, no spells or spirits that came from her are BA, she had told me she refuses to work with anything BA & gave me some good advise that I should go with my gut feeling & if something feels completely bad or off then stay clear because dealing with BA will be nothing but trouble in the long run! I know my Warrior Fae won't do any harm unless they have to like doing battle or defending their friends/family but they won't start any trouble, my Guardian Fae isn't really that type-he is one that will avoid causing harm unless it's absolutely needed-CH doesn't have the type of Fae in their encyclopedia, or at least that I am aware of-but my Guardian Fae is one that kept the records of the Ancient Ways as well as history & made sure they were put in a safe place, kind of like a Librarian is a way to describe him!


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