DeeArtLover wrote:

Dasadon wrote:

Aprophis wrote:

DeeArtLover wrote: No, not all ubi are into just sex...not all need it to feed

It's in their nature, they're born like that.

That said, there are some that have learned to live without.
In my keep there's one that works under Hecate, who doesn't need to feed anymore. But then again, she's probably more along the lines of what the Greek called Daemon now.

So they do start out like that but they can, under certain circumstances, evolve past that. Exceptions to the rule do exist. The question is, since mine would be more along the lines of a Daemon, is she still an Ubi? Would an Ubi that doesn't need to feed on sexual energy anymore be called an ubi?

I guess if that’s what she identifies as then she would be one.

You just contradicted what u just said xD and no not all are born like that like who REALLY knows

Your talking to me right?
If so I never did any such thing. I said that we give these entities labels and then I said the entity has a choice as to what her label is.

Humans call us faeries but we don’t refer to ourselves like that.

If aliens landed on earth do you think they would define you as a human? No to them your a Flimflam and nothing more.

creepyhollows wrote:It's important to realize the "Ubi" is something painted with a large brush, and over time "Ubi" has come to embrace many different beings that aren't actually Ubis. It's also important to note that the insurgence of religion in many European cultures led to Ubis being depicted with horns and spiked tails because religion depicted sex as evil, therefore Ubi = devil.

With any of the races you have to peel back the layers past the religious views & past the historical records that demonized certain species beyond the reputation they deserve.

Just in case no one saw this. Regardless, please don't argue about the subject. Opinions are fine and accepted, but this is just turning into a full fledged argument.

Aprophis wrote:

DeeArtLover wrote: and no not all are born like that like who REALLY knows

Aaaand that's the thing, right there. All established conjurers I know talk about them needing it (at least as long as they're alive, spirits don't need it since they're already dead). So unless you have irrefutable proof that this isn't the way it is, you definitely don't know. Unless you want to claim you know more than they do.
Aside from that, sure you can believe what you want to believe. But that doesn't automatically make it true. That just makes it your opinion.

Same with you, just opinion

DeeArtLover wrote: Same with you, just opinion

If it's just an opinion, it's at least an opinion based on information from experienced and knowledgeable experts.

Aprophis wrote:

DeeArtLover wrote: Same with you, just opinion

If it's just an opinion, it's at least an opinion based on information from experienced and knowledgeable experts.

Supposingly, none of us actually know that for sure.

DeeArtLover wrote: Supposingly, none of us actually know that for sure.

If you go that way, none of us actually know for sure if they exist so this whole conversation would be moot. *shrugs*

Aprophis wrote:

DeeArtLover wrote: Same with you, just opinion

If it's just an opinion, it's at least an opinion based on information from experienced and knowledgeable experts.

Are these people expert based on your opinion or are the expert objectively What are the practices of these experts? Are the ceremonial magicians? Are they witches? Probably both and much more in my opinion which means that you need to be more specific.

This post was basically "hey info on ubi, cool" now it's a argument

Yeah but it was inevitable. We have too many people with too many different beliefs that contradict each other. conflict will occur.

I thought that we agreed to disagree

Grey67 wrote:This post was basically "hey info on ubi, cool" now it's a argument

This post was basically: "Hey, here I'll tell you about my UPG (unverified personal gnosis), also I'm not an established conjurer or anything."
So.....sure you can believe it. Just like you can believe everything Trump tweets.

While it's nice to hear about experiences and such, when it goes into "Hey, I'm telling a fact about this" territory, maybe people shouldn't be so quick to accept that.

But getting back to Trump, I can see it's kind of a sign of the times.

Dasadon wrote: Are these people expert based on your opinion or are the expert objectively What are the practices of these experts? Are the ceremonial magicians? Are they witches? Probably both and much more in my opinion which means that you need to be more specific.

......you know. It's kind of funny.
If I'd come here and said, "Hey, my 100+ ubi disagree with this statement vehemently", would that have been just accepted just like the original post?

Now if I state the information from the 10+ sellers I actually have those ubi's from, it gets questioned.....right, makes sense, totally.

As I said, knowledge from experienced and knowledgeable people.
Take Noc for example. She works with Ubi's, she works with Lilith, she works in the Qliphothic spheres, has years of experience, is an established seller and she actually posted a reply here.