Why are Enochian angels classified dark arts?

nina · Mon May 20, 2019 2:21 pm

I was of the opinion Enochian angels like Gabriel is WA. So I was surprised to see them classified as DA in the encyclopaedia. Why are they DA? Aren’t they always doing positive things?

darkwing dook · Mon May 20, 2019 3:51 pm

There's this thread:
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NorthWood · Mon May 20, 2019 5:14 pm

From my understand enochian is a language the angles use. I want aware that it was a specific type of angle. If you look at angles from the Christian lenses, they are not different necessarily. They live in a hirarchy system with arch angles being the strongest and then it goes to weakest. But they shouldn't be separate types. More or less deifferent categories of athourity.

Johnny Seraph · Mon May 20, 2019 6:35 pm

From what I've read, Enochian angels mean business, in more ways than one.

So I understand the DA classification. They're powerful enough to drop-kick a human halfway across the universe, and some of them evidently wouldn't mind doing it, either.

Not exactly the sort of thing I'd associate with WA, but maybe that's just me.

Rungr · Mon May 20, 2019 7:12 pm

Angels themselves are light element based beings however there are some angels like samael’s angels who had dark elemental energy for some time. Enochian is also an infernal language just a different dialect that angels but really close.

Alys-RaccoonReadings · Mon May 20, 2019 7:30 pm

And, remember, in this forum DA simply means that a being has free will.

nina · Mon May 20, 2019 7:47 pm

Alys-RaccoonReadings wrote:And, remember, in this forum DA simply means that a being has free will.

Am not sure I agree with that Alys ,,, If WA entities chose to be bound with us doesn’t it mean they have a choice , or means free will?

Alys-RaccoonReadings · Tue May 21, 2019 1:11 am

nina wrote:
Alys-RaccoonReadings wrote:And, remember, in this forum DA simply means that a being has free will.
Am not sure I agree with that Alys ,,, If WA entities chose to be bound with us doesn’t it mean they have a choice , or means free will?

I'm not saying what I do or don't believe. I'm saying this is generally how folks mean that here in terms of classification of an entity or spirit. And I think it is less micro-free-will (someone can choose whether or not to be bound) and more macro-free-will (there's a framework within which free choices occur, but that framework is never violated.)

More importantly, it might be useful to define what you mean when you use the terms WA and DA, etc. if you are venturing outside those (very broad) definitions.

Likes2Read · Tue May 21, 2019 10:55 am

nina wrote:I was of the opinion Enochian angels like Gabriel is WA. So I was surprised to see them classified as DA in the encyclopaedia. Why are they DA? Aren’t they always doing positive things?

DA, as CH defines it, means that the being can choose to do good or evil.

If we are to believe that some angels disobeyed God and were cast out of Heaven, then we can see that angels could choose one way or the other.

So by that logic, even the angels who remained loyal could have chosen one way or the other.

The ability to choose makes any being DA. Even if they choose to act in a WA manner 100% of the time, it’s still a decision they are making of their own free will.

KnightofAvalon · Wed May 22, 2019 8:05 pm

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding of the angelic realm here. From my understanding, (very little might I add),according to Biblical scriptures as well Jewish kabbalah show that indeed not only did angels have right of choice but they are VERY different in rank, description and purpose. I found this chart and it seems to show things the basic way however I'm sure our human understanding is far from correct. http://soulpainter.com/2015/09/explanat ... fographic/

Why are Enochian angels classified dark arts?

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