Alys-RaccoonReadings wrote:Goats are so delightful! And so are grandmothers! (Well. Most of them, lol!)

Engel wrote:Whenever there has been a thunderstorm in my area, my Grandmother would always tell me that it was "Thor and his goats causing the thunderstorms". This made me curious and so I looked into the folklore surrounding this; since I wasn't sure of "what" caused it or "how" it was done. Typing in the Norwegian words for "Thor", "billy goats", "lightening", and "thunder" into the Google search engine quickly yielded me with results:

"The word "torden" is derived from tor-, from the name of the god Tor
(which in turn is derived from the Germanic *þunra), as well as -den -
derived from the Norse dynr (<<rumble>>[1] <<boom, din>>[2])." [3] [Note:
My translation, with the exception of a couple of words written in Norwegian or
Norse in the Wikipedia article by its respective author (that has been kept
in their original language here) and the translated words following the Norse word
"dynr", and the proper sources will be credited down below in the footnotes, together
with a link to the respective sources.]

The Norwegian word "torden" translates into the word "thunder" in English and the given name Tor tranlates into "Thor" in English. When typing in the Norwegian words "Tor med geitene torden lyn" [English: Thor with the goats thunder ligtning], I was provided with a different search result. The Wikipedia could also say this about the Norse Immortal Thor, his rams, thunder and lightning:

"Tanngrisner, or Tanngrisne, (Norse Tanngrisnir, <<the one who
has teeth with (large) gaps between them>>)[4][5][6] and Tanngnjost
(Tanngnjóstr, Tanngiost, <<the one who grits its teeth>>) in Norse
mythology are the two billy goats who pulls the chariot of the god of thunder
Thor with the hammer over the sky. Thunder was explained as the sound
of the chariot when Thor, in Gylvaginning was called <<Ake-Tor>> (Öku-Þórr),
was out and drove around with his billy goats, while lightning was the sparks from
when he struck with Mjølner (Mjollne), his mighty hammer." [7] [Note: My translation
and parentheses around the word "large".]

It's very interesting to learn about the mythology behind the words spoken to me by my Grandmother, and the etymology behind the Norwegian word "torden" which also is tied to and partly is derived from Norse Immortal Thor, the god of thunder.[8] Also, I came think about a thread in this section created by another member: topic28029.html, and it reminded me of my Grandmother's words and of the Norse Immortal Thor and his goats after the thunderstorm yesterday and today. And which made me want to create a post on it and post it here on Creepy Hollows.

Sources:

My Grandmother

[1] bulder. (n.d.) K Dictionaries. (2013). Retrieved June 18 2019 from https://no.thefreedictionary.com/bulder

[2] drønn. (n.d.) K Dictionaries. (2013). Retrieved June 18 2019 from https://no.thefreedictionary.com/dr%c3%b8nn

[3] https://no.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torden Retrieved June 18 2019

[4] https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanngrisner_og_Tanngnjost Retrieved June 18 2019

[5] https://ordbok.uib.no/perl/ordbok.cgi?OPP=grov Retrieved June 18 2019

[6] https://ordbok.uib.no/perl/ordbok.cgi?O ... dbok=begge Retrieved June 18 2019

[7] https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanngrisner_og_Tanngnjost Retrieved June 18 2019

[8] https://no.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torden Retrieved June 18 2019

Engel wrote:Sorry! I made a mistake and copy-pasted the wrong source in footnote [1] in my previous post. This has now been corrected!

Whenever there has been a thunderstorm in my area, my Grandmother would always tell me that it was "Thor and his goats causing the thunderstorms". This made me curious and so I looked into the folklore surrounding this; since I wasn't sure of "what" caused it or "how" it was done. Typing in the Norwegian words for "Thor", "billy goats", "lightening", and "thunder" into the Google search engine quickly yielded me with results:

"The word "torden" is derived from tor-, from the name of the god Tor
(which in turn is derived from the Germanic *þunra), as well as -den -
derived from the Norse dynr (<<rumble>>[1] <<boom, din>>[2])." [3] [Note:
My translation, with the exception of a couple of words written in Norwegian or
Norse in the Wikipedia article by its respective author (that has been kept
in their original language here) and the translated words following the Norse word
"dynr", and the proper sources will be credited down below in the footnotes, together
with a link to the respective sources.]

The Norwegian word "torden" translates into the word "thunder" in English and the given name Tor tranlates into "Thor" in English. When typing in the Norwegian words "Tor med geitene torden lyn" [English: Thor with the goats thunder ligtning], I was provided with a different search result. The Wikipedia could also say this about the Norse Immortal Thor, his goats, thunder and lightning:

"Tanngrisner, or Tanngrisne, (Norse Tanngrisnir, <<the one who
has teeth with (large) gaps between them>>)[4][5][6] and Tanngnjost
(Tanngnjóstr, Tanngiost, <<the one gnashing its teeth>>[7]) in Norse
mythology are the two billy goats who pulls the chariot of the god of thunder
Thor with the hammer over the sky. Thunder was explained as the sound
of the chariot when Thor, in Gylvaginning was called <<Ake-Tor>> (Öku-Þórr),
was out and drove around with his billy goats, while lightning was the sparks from
when he struck with Mjølner (Mjollne), his mighty hammer." [8] [Note: My translation
with the exception of the word "gnash(ing)," which source will be properly credited
and linked to in the footnotes. My parentheses around the word "large".]


It's very interesting to learn about the mythology behind the words spoken to me by my Grandmother, and the etymology behind the Norwegian word "torden" which also is tied to and partly is derived from Norse Immortal Thor, the god of thunder.[9] Also, I came think about a thread in this section created by another member: topic28029.html, and it reminded me of my Grandmother's words and of the Norse Immortal Thor and his goats after the thunderstorm yesterday and today. And which made me want to create a post on it and post it here on Creepy Hollows.

Sources:

My Grandmother

[1] bulder. (n.d.) K Dictionaries. (2013). Retrieved June 18 2019 from https://no.thefreedictionary.com/bulder

[2] drønn. (n.d.) K Dictionaries. (2013). Retrieved June 18 2019 from https://no.thefreedictionary.com/dr%c3%b8nn

[3] https://no.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torden Retrieved June 18 2019

[4] https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanngrisner_og_Tanngnjost Retrieved June 18 2019

[5] https://ordbok.uib.no/perl/ordbok.cgi?OPP=grov Retrieved June 18 2019

[6] https://ordbok.uib.no/perl/ordbok.cgi?O ... dbok=begge Retrieved June 18 2019

[7] skjære tenner. (n.d.) TheFreeDictionary.com. (2019). Retrieved June 19 2019 from https://no.thefreedictionary.com/skj%c3%a6re+tenner

[8] https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanngrisner_og_Tanngnjost Retrieved June 18 2019

[9] https://no.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torden Retrieved June 18 2019