Transmute bag and charging energy questions

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So, if you use a transmute bag to move a spell onto a new vessel, does it also copy the charging energy? (assuming the old vessel had charging energy).

If not, does the UBOAT do this?

ALSO,
if you copy the binding from a vessel with two spells will it copy both if you don't specify one or the other?


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idk, sorry


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Dunno so I'm going with the stock answer here:

If it's from CH ask the HelpDesk

Edited to add:Good questions though! And now you've got me curious, so please post the answer. :@


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I will!


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I am going to answer this but it has absolutely no fact to it. BUT metaphysically thinking out of the box, IF, I would have the capacity to do what Magnolia and Ash are doing, plus selling all those transmute bags, I would enable the spells made and sold to transfer as a whole, with class and charging energy from vessel to vessel, whether it is copied or fully transmuted. And making sore that it is simplified as much as possible to deal with it for lay people like myself.
cairngorn wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:35 pm So, if you use a transmute bag to move a spell onto a new vessel, does it also copy the charging energy? (assuming the old vessel had charging energy).

If not, does the UBOAT do this?

ALSO,
if you copy the binding from a vessel with two spells will it copy both if you don't specify one or the other?


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From my experiences, I would say yes(and no).. I use the phrase "all the magick within" as my identifier for what to copy or transfer.... so the transfer or copy is complete when I use this identifier. This includes the bindings of spirits and any spells and that would also include the spells that are used to supply energy such as the charging spells and or/bindings of portals If you choose to specify one spell or spirit binding to copy (or move), the bag will only move the one you specify so then you would have to repeat the procedure to move the charging spell (or any other binding).

BTW when I use my master vessel, I use the copy feature because most of my spirits prefer to keep their original vessels but also like the master vessel which supplies them more energy and at the same time bridges their binding to me. So the effect is that they keep their original vessel and gain a vessel that gives them unlimited access to me.


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I have questions about the transmute bag...

I believe that the spirits need to be asked if they want a new vessel? Would asking via pendulum work? I have a broken vessel and have a new vessel ready. I just want to be sure that the new vessel is ok with my companion before I just go ahead and make the switch.


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Metheus North wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:59 am I have questions about the transmute bag...

I believe that the spirits need to be asked if they want a new vessel? Would asking via pendulum work? I have a broken vessel and have a new vessel ready. I just want to be sure that the new vessel is ok with my companion before I just go ahead and make the switch.
Yes, me and my wife agree with a pendulum that should work. Even more if that is your to go way of communicating with this particular spirit.

About approval needed before transmutation: I would say, ask yourself "How would you like to be treated if you was this spirit?"

And last but not least, if you cannot contact your spirit.. Try the transmutation, since a new vessel is always better then a broken vessel, right?
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OP, did you ever reach out to the Help Desk and if so, do you mind sharing the answer? I ordered the Transmute Bag this weekend and I have the same question.


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Yes.What did help desk say?


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