Hello all!

So I've had this suspicion for a little bit that my unicorn companion (we'll call her D) is against me adding dark arts entities to my keep. This was more or less confirmed this morning after I woke up from a dream where I'm pretty sure I had an experience with an unbound incubus, but that's a different story.

While I was a little surprised, I didn't get a malicious vibe from whoever visited me in my dreams, so I figured I'd check with my keep and see if I should try to ask if the unbound would make a good companion. Well, my pendulum was going all over the place, so I asked everyone on by one. S, my elf, was a little tentative, but ultimately came back with a yes. N, my faery, gave a very enthusiastic yes. (She's my only pre-bound spirit from a seller who had a number of dark arts spirits as well, so she's probably more used to spending time with them/their energy), and when I asked D she gave me a solid no. This isn't the first time I've gotten a no from her regarding dark arts spirits, so I asked if adding any dark arts spirits to my keep would be ok, and again, she said no.

I guess my question is, what should I do? I probably am more white arts inclined to begin with, but I am interested in working with dark arts spirits in the future too. But I also don't want to make D uncomfortable, and I'm sure she has her reasons too. I'm just not sure what they are yet. Has anyone else experienced something like this before? Any advice would be much appreciated. Thank you!

While I did experience some tension between different companions of mine, they do get along very well. One of my house rules is, that everyone has to respect each other to learn and grow with each other.
Maybe your companion has had some bad experiences with DA before or the timing isn't right for you at the moment. In the end it's up to you to decide.
Some of my companions were like: "Not sure if this one is a good idea...", but now they're all enjoying each other's company (although some of them wouldn't admit it ).

First - it is important to practice with more than one form of divination/spirit communication to verify your answers. Pendulum is helpful but the 'yes' or 'no' framework leaves too much to question. Get (or make!) a deck of cards like oracle, tarot, even just playing cards and practice with those to acquire more detail on answers until you're more versed at deciphering the signs/organic communications.

We as humans ARE Dark Arts beings. So your unicorn friend is already tolerating the dark arts energy by being around you. It could be that there's something you don't yet know about how accepting more DA energy would impact you, something you have to learn first, maybe to even educate yourself more on the specific DA being you wanted to invite into your keep. All I'm getting at with this is you need more info to draw a proper conclusion. I doubt that the unicorn flat out thinks you shouldn't at all; it is probably more complex than that.

ilinga wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 8:45 pm While I did experience some tension between different companions of mine, they do get along very well. One of my house rules is, that everyone has to respect each other to learn and grow with each other.
Maybe your companion has had some bad experiences with DA before or the timing isn't right for you at the moment. In the end it's up to you to decide.
Some of my companions were like: "Not sure if this one is a good idea...", but now they're all enjoying each other's company (although some of them wouldn't admit it ).

I was also wondering if she maybe had bad experiences in the past too. I'll definitely work on learning more. And it's good to hear that even with spirits in your keep who were unsure did end up becoming good friends! (Again, even if they wouldn't admit it lol) That gives me hope that I could hopefully work with D on this too. Thank you for your reply!

Vipera aspis atra wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:03 pm First - it is important to practice with more than one form of divination/spirit communication to verify your answers. Pendulum is helpful but the 'yes' or 'no' framework leaves too much to question. Get (or make!) a deck of cards like oracle, tarot, even just playing cards and practice with those to acquire more detail on answers until you're more versed at deciphering the signs/organic communications.

We as humans ARE Dark Arts beings. So your unicorn friend is already tolerating the dark arts energy by being around you. It could be that there's something you don't yet know about how accepting more DA energy would impact you, something you have to learn first, maybe to even educate yourself more on the specific DA being you wanted to invite into your keep. All I'm getting at with this is you need more info to draw a proper conclusion. I doubt that the unicorn flat out thinks you shouldn't at all; it is probably more complex than that.

Ah, this is true. I hadn't considered that (with myself being a dark arts being and all). I'm not too great at communicating with my tarot/oracle decks yet, but it's definitely worth a shot.

It's also possible she simply doesn't think I'm ready yet, which is also a possibility. I'll try asking her about it later tonight and follow up. Thank you so much!

I also wonder, if you're sensing some genuine responses from your bound spirit companions, whether they're sensing the angle at which you're coming at this from is uncertainty and being subtly willing to accept 'bad' energies.

If you are able to reframe your perspective on the situation, focusing on how safely and carefully DA companions could be added to your spirit family, - and how DA spirits and their energy aren't evil - maybe they'd have fewer misgivings on your behalf.

I'm speculating of course.

From my perspective, having a reliable, expert conjurer like CH custom conjure and bind a DA spirit companion is the safest way to find one. Plus, adopting the CH recommended house rules.

Another priority (according to ASH in the CH Great Dark Arts Guidance book) is to up protection levels and measures, If you can task protective spell bindings and specialist protection spirits to keep out all malicious spirits or entities, then you'd be that much safer and maybe your spirit companions would be pleased you'd taken those measures and that safe approach.

Plus CH may be able to vet and bind the unbound you met.

Once bound, they will have (in my understanding) agreed to a positive, lifelong companion relationship in mutual alignment. That itself puts things on a clear, firm, relatively safe footing, in my opinion...fwiw.

CH offers many items to help keep the peace in your Spirit Family.

https://shop.creepyhollows.com/SPIRIT-K ... IRITS.html


And there is another one, although I am blanking on the name, that puts Spirits on seperate planes or something so that they won't even know that the other exists of it comes to that.

Lewk wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:17 am I also wonder, if you're sensing some genuine responses from your bound spirit companions, whether they're sensing the angle at which you're coming at this from is uncertainty and being subtly willing to accept 'bad' energies.

If you are able to reframe your perspective on the situation, focusing on how safely and carefully DA companions could be added to your spirit family, - and how DA spirits and their energy aren't evil - maybe they'd have fewer misgivings on your behalf.

I'm speculating of course.

From my perspective, having a reliable, expert conjurer like CH custom conjure and bind a DA spirit companion is the safest way to find one. Plus, adopting the CH recommended house rules.

Another priority (according to ASH in the CH Great Dark Arts Guidance book) is to up protection levels and measures, If you can task protective spell bindings and specialist protection spirits to keep out all malicious spirits or entities, then you'd be that much safer and maybe your spirit companions would be pleased you'd taken those measures and that safe approach.

Plus CH may be able to vet and bind the unbound you met.

Once bound, they will have (in my understanding) agreed to a positive, lifelong companion relationship in mutual alignment. That itself puts things on a clear, firm, relatively safe footing, in my opinion...fwiw.

Hm, that's quite possible. Being relatively new to engaging with dark arts energy, it makes sense that my spirit companions might be uncertain.

The other night I did try to gain a little more clarity by conversing with D, and I think I understand more now. It seems like her hesitance has more to do with dark arts spirits that deal with... exchanging sexual energy, for lack of a better way to put it. And when delving deeper, she told me she'd be ok with say, protective dark arts entities, but isn't sure if I'm necessarily in a space where I'm ready for... a spirit lover, basically. Which is interesting, but makes sense.

(Without going too deep into things, I am still having trouble getting over a breakup, especially recently, so it has been the subject of some chats I've had with my spirits as of late. I was personally considering getting a spirit like an incubus or nympho to help me heal with some blockages I've been left with dealing with intimacy and self-worth, but talking to D has me wondering if that might not help the way I think it would. Or if I would ultimately end up having that bond be a crutch/way to avoid what really needs to be addressed... But that feels like a topic for another thread. lol)

I will definitely look into upping my protection bindings and house rules though. That will be helpful as I start integrating DA spirits into my keep.

Selah wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:42 am CH offers many items to help keep the peace in your Spirit Family.

https://shop.creepyhollows.com/SPIRIT-K ... IRITS.html


And there is another one, although I am blanking on the name, that puts Spirits on seperate planes or something so that they won't even know that the other exists of it comes to that.

That's an excellent idea! I was thinking getting some support bindings might be helpful. I'll look into these. Thank you!
I did actually get the binding for unbounds around me, at the recommendation of my keep after having a more in-depth discussion. My hope is that any DA entities that might already be around me that the CH team, N, D, and S all vet/might know already would be a good place to start.

Here it is. Spirt Keeping: Gates for Spirits: Keeping the Peace

https://shop.creepyhollows.com/SPIRIT-K ... PEACE.html