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Sharing, with permission, an account from an associate of mine.

She has a significant number of spirit companions, many being powerful entities. She interacts with them regularly, has deep and trusting bonds with a many, and overall has wonderful relationships with them. She has quite a consistent schedule for meeting with them, as well - a full spreadsheet, amusingly enough, of each to help her manage her time with them. 8)) From what I have seen, it has served her well, and allowed her to have strong ties to most of them.

Unfortunately, this does not appear to have been sufficient. In recent months she has struggled with a number of spiritual attacks. These have been intermittent, varying in intensity, with some lasting a full 7-10 days, night and day, without ceasing.

In the middle of these conflicts, she has called upon her companions for assistance. They do respond to her calls, and have been invaluable in helping her overcome these struggles. Yet she noted something interesting; despite her close bonds, they will typically not help without tasking. One of her companions specializes in warding, for example, but he will not act if she has not specifically called upon him and instructed him on what to do.

She typically remembers to task, but when exhausted from long term difficulties she sometimes forgets. She expressed her frustration with the fact that she perpetually needs to tell them what, exactly, to do in every situation.

I would be interested in hearing if anyone else has had similar experiences. What sort of role does tasking play for you in serious situations? What, if any, theories do you have about why her companions are inactive without tasking?


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Hmm.... The Way I got about this is.... I do have "task-groups" so to speak^^ I ask them if they feel comfortable being in group x or y and if yes, then this companion becomes responsible for all tasks which fall under the umbrella of that task-group. I do also explained what i have in mind if i have, lets say... a "Ritual-Group"... with a number of companions who where okay to be there....

The Task-Groups are something like the main-responsibility if i do not task them individually and that did work out for us I think.^^


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Maybe she has a house rule that said something along the line of do not do anything without her confirmation? Another possibility is she may have in the past instructed them not to act without her permission.

One thing she can do is having some kind of being or group that can carry out certain tasks without being explicitly ask to do so. I assigned an overlord being in my family with permission to do whatever she felt is needed at any time for any situation and can also instruct other beings in the family, especially when it comes to protection since I can't always response to threat (both physical and spiritual) aiming at me and my family. Besides that, I also have very relaxed house rule, almost like suggestions than rules. which give my family a lot of freedom and discretion.


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I agree it may have something to do with house rules, but I can't relate to this because my spirit family assists me without me needing to task them because on some days I'm busy or tired. (While I do spend time with them every day, on those days I will still do so without tasking them.)

I have however given them a list of tasks according to their abilities to do for me daily as a general rule, but also ask that they do nothing that would cause me bad karma in this lifetime or any of my future reincarnations. (I'll add that these methods are what's worked best for me, but something else may or may not be better for her and her keep.)

By doing those things, each of my companions have done wonderfully using each of their abilities to the fullest with or without me tasking them including in serious situations which I love them very much for. <3

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It could be like Darknorth mentioned.
Another reason could be that her companions see her fully capable of handling the situation on her own and she might be lacking some confidence or insight she's about to gain. Best would be to reflect on the circumstances at hand: Her house rules, the overall situation, who are the aggressors and why do they attack without her companions interfering, could there be other ways to deal with the situation etc. pp.
It could also depend on the binding of the companions (best thing to ask the conjurer about). Some conjurers insist on very strict rules and might even bind a companion in a way that prevents them from acting without explicit commands.


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The first, most obvious thing is she may not be reading things correctly. (I don't know.)

Another possible issue is the way we all (or many of us) link to things almost unconsciously, unwittingly -- which our spirit companions may not interfere with because, if it's our free will to do so, why not wait until we ask for help? (Again I've no idea if this is the case.) It can be hard for many of us to delink effectively from what troubles us.

Finally, we need to gently, subtly, considerately invite our spirit companions to aid us. If we don't or can't listen sensitively to them, we may miss the feedback they give us about what they *are* doing to help us. We may not notice which being is taking the lead on that and so fail to connect effectively with the protection or help they are providing.

With myself I notice when I'm clear and in a sensitive state I'm more likely to be connecting effectively with whatever help I'm being given. Otherwise I may be stuck in repetitive loops of being unable to switch off or delink from my problem and be unable to tune in to the protection or help that's being offered.

Plus our spirits can't always just wave a magic wand and make things perfect, if you see what I mean. We're part of the equation too. And there may be complex factors at work in any given situation.

Just my thoughts fwiw.

tl/r: If we write a crystal clear house rule that we be protected from any form of external psychic or paranormal attack, and we have a good mix of specialist protection spirits, that should be pretty effective. But what if we're generating our own problems in some ways? Self sabotage, projection, shadow issues etc? And we don't recognise them for what they are? Internally generated 'attack' won't be resolved by external protection. And we can have both things going on at once.

Disclaimer: These are just thoughts, not comments on the person's situation, as I don't know them.


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luxnoctis wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:12 pm Sharing, with permission, an account from an associate of mine.

She has a significant number of spirit companions, many being powerful entities. She interacts with them regularly, has deep and trusting bonds with a many, and overall has wonderful relationships with them. She has quite a consistent schedule for meeting with them, as well - a full spreadsheet, amusingly enough, of each to help her manage her time with them. 8)) From what I have seen, it has served her well, and allowed her to have strong ties to most of them.

Unfortunately, this does not appear to have been sufficient. In recent months she has struggled with a number of spiritual attacks. These have been intermittent, varying in intensity, with some lasting a full 7-10 days, night and day, without ceasing.

In the middle of these conflicts, she has called upon her companions for assistance. They do respond to her calls, and have been invaluable in helping her overcome these struggles. Yet she noted something interesting; despite her close bonds, they will typically not help without tasking. One of her companions specializes in warding, for example, but he will not act if she has not specifically called upon him and instructed him on what to do.

She typically remembers to task, but when exhausted from long term difficulties she sometimes forgets. She expressed her frustration with the fact that she perpetually needs to tell them what, exactly, to do in every situation.

I would be interested in hearing if anyone else has had similar experiences. What sort of role does tasking play for you in serious situations? What, if any, theories do you have about why her companions are inactive without tasking?
I understand where your friend is coming since I don't task my companions as well. But I hasn't had this problem before. This is kinda hard to reply since it's written based on your understanding of her situation. I'm just assuming at best.

Personally, I don't like to give my companions strict rules to follow, but I do have some long guidelines to make sure I'm comfortable before diving in and the need to ensure that my companions and I am on the same page. My house "rules" are more like loose agreements that I tweak based on our interactions.

Regarding your friend's situation, three things come to mind: protection spirits/entities, protection spells, and house rules.

Protection spirits or entities can greatly prevent spiritual attacks. It's like a skinny bouncer at a club - he won't scare anyone away, and they might even try to sneak in because they think they can get past him.
Not all races of spirits are equal when it comes to protection. It's important to consider race of the protection spirits.

When your friend mentioned having "powerful" spirits/entities, it's worth asking how she defines powerful, what their main abilities are, and if they are primarily for protection.

Similarly, if your friend has the strongest protection spells and doesn't engage in conjuring, rituals, or anything more involved, she may not need protection spirits. But still, she'd need good protection spells in place.

As for the house rules, there's certainly a lot that could go awry. I concur with Darknorth that if she has her companions report back to her regularly on what's going on, they'd follow her commands accordingly, in the absence of specific guidelines.
Alternatively, she could sit down and brainstorm all possible scenarios to include in the house rules, so that her companions know how to handle any unexpected situations and whether they're authorized to act on her behalf. Well, we certainly don't want our companions to come in and cause chaos, do as they please, and leave us in a mess, now do we? Like Thyr mentioned, it might be wise to consider their bindings and many other factors before allowing them to act on their own accord.

Lewk's advice is also worth taking into account. Is she sure that the spiritual attacks are actually external and not just internal struggles? Additionally, the races of the spirits she's befriending could play a significant role in this. It's not advisable to ask someone at a water park to help with tax papers, after all. So perhaps take a little bit of break from the metaphysical and see if everything is clear.

It's possible that she may be overestimating the strength of her bonds with her many companions. I don't mean this as an insult, of course, but it's important to recognize that there may be aspects of their personalities that she hasn't yet grasped. Misunderstandings can also arise if communication between her and her companions is unclear. Therefore, she can continue what she's doing and ask her companions for guidance on how to proceed.

In my experience, even my non-social companions are quite active, manifesting themselves at least to 3-4 times a day on average, it's usually more. So my companions are anything but inactive and I don't task them. I'm the worst at tasking and wishing so I'll leave it as that. Lol.
Other than that, I'd love to hear about her progress and hopefully there's good news to share.


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My answer to this is simple and might not be liked by some but it does not matter. Spirits are not omnipotent. I have many protection spirits, spells and I do my own protection as well, and yes I have had this issue from time to time. The reason in my case? Some annoying beings simply manage to intrude, sometimes the intruder come in. Nothing dangerous I am talking about but some annoyance here and there has happened (protection against annoying and malicious beings is part of my house rules btw). That is why when I take new spirits nowadays I do not expect them to be perfect and super-proactive, I take them mainly for companionship and if they can provide additional "benefits and gifts" that is great but not expected anymore, not saying your friend expects anything as I don't know her but just saying about my approach. The sellers' descriptions are most of the time full of marketing talk overpromising what can not be delivered in reality, I take those description with a pinch of salt. I have checked this with my warrior angel, he is a great protector, but when I asked him why he did let some annoyance in he said, that was an intruder, basically informing he just missed that intruder for some reason. So this means I sometimes need to task several times for the same task because I have other spirits who should help my warrior and they are supposed to automatically guard according to seller's description but for some reason they sometimes don't provide perfect protection. In my case I am talking mainly of living entities. I do have some protective (dead) spirits as well though. They do what they can and I think sometimes it is ok to have those annoying beings around in small doses, it helps growing spiritual resilience and getting an understanding on that kind of beings as well by being exposed to them. All that said, I have always been protected by more "dangerous" beings if any of those exist, only light annoyances have come through.


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Kobald wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:53 pm Hmm.... The Way I got about this is.... I do have "task-groups" so to speak^^ I ask them if they feel comfortable being in group x or y and if yes, then this companion becomes responsible for all tasks which fall under the umbrella of that task-group. I do also explained what i have in mind if i have, lets say... a "Ritual-Group"... with a number of companions who where okay to be there....

The Task-Groups are something like the main-responsibility if i do not task them individually and that did work out for us I think.^^
Task groups are an excellent idea. I believe she is working on developing something similar in concept to keep a solid grasp on who is aligned with what/where/etc.


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Darknorth wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:01 pm Maybe she has a house rule that said something along the line of do not do anything without her confirmation? Another possibility is she may have in the past instructed them not to act without her permission.

One thing she can do is having some kind of being or group that can carry out certain tasks without being explicitly ask to do so. I assigned an overlord being in my family with permission to do whatever she felt is needed at any time for any situation and can also instruct other beings in the family, especially when it comes to protection since I can't always response to threat (both physical and spiritual) aiming at me and my family. Besides that, I also have very relaxed house rule, almost like suggestions than rules. which give my family a lot of freedom and discretion.
Confirmed that that she hasn't put out any house rules that would prevent direct assistance. She shared the gist of her house rules, and they're quite flexible.

An overlord isn't a bad idea, actually - I passed it on as a recommendation.


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