I recently have decided to change things around in my life based on a couple of life changing events. To start off my life has always been a little crazy ever since I was a kid. I was born into a very different family with some non earthly gifts. It wasn't always easy under all the full moon rages in my fathers house or my mothers alcoholic tendencies but with God's help I freed myself from their masonic control and got the help I deserved and needed. Now it came to my attention during almost dying in the ER recently that God sent Gabriel, Raphael, and Michael to protect me.. and now it seems he sent another angel. I heard his name whispered before in the navy barracks. Azrael. Crazy how while flipping through scripture I landed on the exact verse marking his name and my highlighter fell in red on his name. The same night I met a very random man at my door and we had a quick conversation. After a couple words he asked for a cup of water and I quickly ushered him in. Before long we began to talk and one thing led to another and keep in mind this he left his cup on my dresser but warned me not to drink after him AT ALL. Now I asked him if he was hungry and he offered me dinner at a restaurant Hot Joy. Seeing I had no money in my wallet he offered to pay for me and we left the house promptly. Taking his car we arrived at the restaurant and quite frankly I had difficulty keeping up in his conversation as he seemed so far ahead of me but he asked me about my life and what I've been up to. The way he spoke was as if he had been watching me my whole life. The feeling was more than surreal. It was God himself working his hand. It was the most beautifully scary experience I've ever had in my entire life. Leaving he told me not to be sad and to exercise my free will in God's manner and timing with how I'm operating within my life right now. On the way back in the car we listened to Angels landing and I wont swear but I felt the holy spirit fill my entire spiritual and astral body.. Crazy. Now getting home I saw the cup and well it was as if the Lord himself instructed me on how to magically clean it and put it away out of respect... ANYWAYS that's all I got for now but I hope you enjoyed my holiday sharing of joy. Cheers and Jesus loves you all. So if anyone is sad or mad or feeling rejected or lost just know that God is always there and is always listening.
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This was such beautiful sharing. Amazing, provision. I know about the filling of the Holy Spirit within my entire being. Keep your treasure actively cherished by calling on the Lord of Life often. I do have lots of high angles with me too. Angels are ministering spirits from God and they provide so much joy and protection, healing, tender loving care ect.
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This looks interesting...but expensive, as it's probably out of print.Kvedulf133 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:55 am I'm now in search of possible ancient christian magic.. anyone have any thoughts on books or threads they might have come across?
Ancient Christian Magic: Coptic Texts of Ritual Power Marvin W. Meyer and Richard Smith, Princeton University Press; 1st Edition (March 15, 1999)
https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Christia ... 504&sr=8-1
If I remember correctly, there was an early split in the Christian community between those who thought personal experience was the key thing (see Gnostics wikipedia article below) and those who wanted to wrest control over the early Christian Church's organisation and over what Christians were allowed to believe. The Gnostics lost and nearly had all traces of them eradicated. That seems like it was a mystical tradition but afaik it was not particularly magical.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism
The Coptic Church was, according to tradition, founded in Egypt by an apostle of Jesus - Mark. And was very influential early on. They seem to have been steeped in magical tradition, as perhaps was typical of Egyptian society at the time anyway.
I can't speak for whether the book is what you need but I'm guessing it's a valuable reference on the surviving original sources on such things.
Whether or not things like the PaterNoster 'magical' word square - Sator Tenet Opera Rotas - was actually magical, or a cryptic way to encode a Christian message, is apparently a controversial (ie uncertain) matter. In any case, that emerged around the mid first century AD, centuries before I think the medieval Christian magical phase began.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sator_Square
The Lord's prayer in the Bible's New Testament is based on a Jewish kabbalistic prayer. But I understand it was really only in the medieval period - ie not ancient times - that Christian occultists began to incorporate kabbalistic features into a Christianised form of magical practice. Kabbala was originally a Jewish mystical/magical tradition - ie not strictly speaking an ancient Christian one. The fact that The Lord's Prayer appears in 2 gospels may be because Jesus/Yeshua actually taught that to his followers and that his cousin John the Baptist taught that to other Essenes - a mystical Jewish sect. (It seems very credible to me that John the Baptist and Jesus/Yeshua could have been Essenes at some point.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essenes
Yet this would probably have been because Christianity emerged from a Judaic society. Apparently - according to historical documentaries I've seen - for quite a while the first Christians most likely also considered themselves religiously Jewish and do not seem to have been into magic. (There are even stories in the New Testament told against well known practicing magicians of the time.)
tl/dr: If you're looking for ancient Christian magic, the early Coptics may be the best source, as they seem to have been steeped in magic. I haven't read the book but I doubt that Christ was the source of the magical tradition. I suspect it was a barely-Christianised version of Egyptian folk magic. If you want medieval versions, again In my view they're not ultimately Christian in origin but are Christianised versions of kabbala or folk magic.
There's a minority tradition that Jesus did learn magic and healing in Egypt (see the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aquar ... the_Christ
There's also a minority tradition that not only did Saint Thomas go to India after the crucifixion of Jesus but that Jesus himself (Issa) went there and to Tibet afterward too and lived out the rest of his natural days there. I watched a fascinating documentary on that. There are also speculated links between the Essenes to India. Could the Essenes have learned yogic breathing techniques from India and did Jesus use yogic training to appear dead while only in suspended animation?
See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_India_(book)
In some minority traditions Jesus is seen rather as an Ascended Master with special powers.
None of these kind of speculations have any convincing evidence behind them but they're all attractive theories. I wouldn't go so far as to say they count as ancient Christian magic - but I think some later Christian magicians may have thought of Jesus more as an ascended master with paranormal powers than as the literal son of Jehovah/Yahweh in a classic religious sense. Or maybe a mixture of both.
The thing with events that happened so long ago is we can't really separate truth from speculation and there have been layer upon layer of retelling the stories, so it's hard to identify what the original narrative even was.
I hope some of that was useful, or at least interesting.
PS See https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/dai ... and-magic/. Early Christians seem to have continued with pre-Christian habits, such as wearing amulets. Like European pre-Christian practices seem to have survived as folk magic for centuries after Christianity arrived.
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Speaking of which you're right actually. The bible does warn us against doing witchcraft period. I actually remember a video of this guy on youtube describing a circle in hell made just for people who do magic. Their limbs are forced to contort over and over in grotesque shapes. Creepy. Anyways cheers and happy new years!Lewk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:37 pmThis looks interesting...but expensive, as it's probably out of print.Kvedulf133 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:55 am I'm now in search of possible ancient christian magic.. anyone have any thoughts on books or threads they might have come across?
Ancient Christian Magic: Coptic Texts of Ritual Power Marvin W. Meyer and Richard Smith, Princeton University Press; 1st Edition (March 15, 1999)
https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Christia ... 504&sr=8-1
If I remember correctly, there was an early split in the Christian community between those who thought personal experience was the key thing (see Gnostics wikipedia article below) and those who wanted to wrest control over the early Christian Church's organisation and over what Christians were allowed to believe. The Gnostics lost and nearly had all traces of them eradicated. That seems like it was a mystical tradition but afaik it was not particularly magical.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism
The Coptic Church was, according to tradition, founded in Egypt by an apostle of Jesus - Mark. And was very influential early on. They seem to have been steeped in magical tradition, as perhaps was typical of Egyptian society at the time anyway.
I can't speak for whether the book is what you need but I'm guessing it's a valuable reference on the surviving original sources on such things.
Whether or not things like the PaterNoster 'magical' word square - Sator Tenet Opera Rotas - was actually magical, or a cryptic way to encode a Christian message, is apparently a controversial (ie uncertain) matter. In any case, that emerged around the mid first century AD, centuries before I think the medieval Christian magical phase began.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sator_Square
The Lord's prayer in the Bible's New Testament is based on a Jewish kabbalistic prayer. But I understand it was really only in the medieval period - ie not ancient times - that Christian occultists began to incorporate kabbalistic features into a Christianised form of magical practice. Kabbala was originally a Jewish mystical/magical tradition - ie not strictly speaking an ancient Christian one. The fact that The Lord's Prayer appears in 2 gospels may be because Jesus/Yeshua actually taught that to his followers and that his cousin John the Baptist taught that to other Essenes - a mystical Jewish sect. (It seems very credible to me that John the Baptist and Jesus/Yeshua could have been Essenes at some point.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essenes
Yet this would probably have been because Christianity emerged from a Judaic society. Apparently - according to historical documentaries I've seen - for quite a while the first Christians most likely also considered themselves religiously Jewish and do not seem to have been into magic. (There are even stories in the New Testament told against well known practicing magicians of the time.)
tl/dr: If you're looking for ancient Christian magic, the early Coptics may be the best source, as they seem to have been steeped in magic. I haven't read the book but I doubt that Christ was the source of the magical tradition. I suspect it was a barely-Christianised version of Egyptian folk magic. If you want medieval versions, again In my view they're not ultimately Christian in origin but are Christianised versions of kabbala or folk magic.
There's a minority tradition that Jesus did learn magic and healing in Egypt (see the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aquar ... the_Christ
There's also a minority tradition that not only did Saint Thomas go to India after the crucifixion of Jesus but that Jesus himself (Issa) went there and to Tibet afterward too and lived out the rest of his natural days there. I watched a fascinating documentary on that. There are also speculated links between the Essenes to India. Could the Essenes have learned yogic breathing techniques from India and did Jesus use yogic training to appear dead while only in suspended animation?
See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_India_(book)
In some minority traditions Jesus is seen rather as an Ascended Master with special powers.
None of these kind of speculations have any convincing evidence behind them but they're all attractive theories. I wouldn't go so far as to say they count as ancient Christian magic - but I think some later Christian magicians may have thought of Jesus more as an ascended master with paranormal powers than as the literal son of Jehovah/Yahweh in a classic religious sense. Or maybe a mixture of both.
The thing with events that happened so long ago is we can't really separate truth from speculation and there have been layer upon layer of retelling the stories, so it's hard to identify what the original narrative even was.
I hope some of that was useful, or at least interesting.
PS See https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/dai ... and-magic/. Early Christians seem to have continued with pre-Christian habits, such as wearing amulets. Like European pre-Christian practices seem to have survived as folk magic for centuries after Christianity arrived.
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I do hope you realize this is an open forum that deals with spirit keeping, magick, mysticism, supernatural and spirituality. I have noticed some of your talking points always leads to the faith you are practicing. It is fine as long it is done respectfully.Kvedulf133 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:11 amSpeaking of which you're right actually. The bible does warn us against doing witchcraft period. I actually remember a video of this guy on youtube describing a circle in hell made just for people who do magic. Their limbs are forced to contort over and over in grotesque shapes. Creepy. Anyways cheers and happy new years!Lewk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:37 pmThis looks interesting...but expensive, as it's probably out of print.Kvedulf133 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:55 am I'm now in search of possible ancient christian magic.. anyone have any thoughts on books or threads they might have come across?
Ancient Christian Magic: Coptic Texts of Ritual Power Marvin W. Meyer and Richard Smith, Princeton University Press; 1st Edition (March 15, 1999)
https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Christia ... 504&sr=8-1
If I remember correctly, there was an early split in the Christian community between those who thought personal experience was the key thing (see Gnostics wikipedia article below) and those who wanted to wrest control over the early Christian Church's organisation and over what Christians were allowed to believe. The Gnostics lost and nearly had all traces of them eradicated. That seems like it was a mystical tradition but afaik it was not particularly magical.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism
The Coptic Church was, according to tradition, founded in Egypt by an apostle of Jesus - Mark. And was very influential early on. They seem to have been steeped in magical tradition, as perhaps was typical of Egyptian society at the time anyway.
I can't speak for whether the book is what you need but I'm guessing it's a valuable reference on the surviving original sources on such things.
Whether or not things like the PaterNoster 'magical' word square - Sator Tenet Opera Rotas - was actually magical, or a cryptic way to encode a Christian message, is apparently a controversial (ie uncertain) matter. In any case, that emerged around the mid first century AD, centuries before I think the medieval Christian magical phase began.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sator_Square
The Lord's prayer in the Bible's New Testament is based on a Jewish kabbalistic prayer. But I understand it was really only in the medieval period - ie not ancient times - that Christian occultists began to incorporate kabbalistic features into a Christianised form of magical practice. Kabbala was originally a Jewish mystical/magical tradition - ie not strictly speaking an ancient Christian one. The fact that The Lord's Prayer appears in 2 gospels may be because Jesus/Yeshua actually taught that to his followers and that his cousin John the Baptist taught that to other Essenes - a mystical Jewish sect. (It seems very credible to me that John the Baptist and Jesus/Yeshua could have been Essenes at some point.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essenes
Yet this would probably have been because Christianity emerged from a Judaic society. Apparently - according to historical documentaries I've seen - for quite a while the first Christians most likely also considered themselves religiously Jewish and do not seem to have been into magic. (There are even stories in the New Testament told against well known practicing magicians of the time.)
tl/dr: If you're looking for ancient Christian magic, the early Coptics may be the best source, as they seem to have been steeped in magic. I haven't read the book but I doubt that Christ was the source of the magical tradition. I suspect it was a barely-Christianised version of Egyptian folk magic. If you want medieval versions, again In my view they're not ultimately Christian in origin but are Christianised versions of kabbala or folk magic.
There's a minority tradition that Jesus did learn magic and healing in Egypt (see the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aquar ... the_Christ
There's also a minority tradition that not only did Saint Thomas go to India after the crucifixion of Jesus but that Jesus himself (Issa) went there and to Tibet afterward too and lived out the rest of his natural days there. I watched a fascinating documentary on that. There are also speculated links between the Essenes to India. Could the Essenes have learned yogic breathing techniques from India and did Jesus use yogic training to appear dead while only in suspended animation?
See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_India_(book)
In some minority traditions Jesus is seen rather as an Ascended Master with special powers.
None of these kind of speculations have any convincing evidence behind them but they're all attractive theories. I wouldn't go so far as to say they count as ancient Christian magic - but I think some later Christian magicians may have thought of Jesus more as an ascended master with paranormal powers than as the literal son of Jehovah/Yahweh in a classic religious sense. Or maybe a mixture of both.
The thing with events that happened so long ago is we can't really separate truth from speculation and there have been layer upon layer of retelling the stories, so it's hard to identify what the original narrative even was.
I hope some of that was useful, or at least interesting.
PS See https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/dai ... and-magic/. Early Christians seem to have continued with pre-Christian habits, such as wearing amulets. Like European pre-Christian practices seem to have survived as folk magic for centuries after Christianity arrived.
You must also understand there are many practitioners of magick here. Please mind this and word your thoughts accordingly.
I am attaching a snapshot of this forum's logo, in case you missed seeing it.

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understood. cheers!CH Moderator wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:12 amI do hope you realize this is an open forum that deals with spirit keeping, magick, mysticism, supernatural and spirituality. I have noticed some of your talking points always leads to the faith you are practicing. It is fine as long it is done respectfullyKvedulf133 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:11 amSpeaking of which you're right actually. The bible does warn us against doing witchcraft period. I actually remember a video of this guy on youtube describing a circle in hell made just for people who do magic. Their limbs are forced to contort over and over in grotesque shapes. Creepy. Anyways cheers and happy new years!Lewk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:37 pmThis looks interesting...but expensive, as it's probably out of print.Kvedulf133 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:55 am I'm now in search of possible ancient christian magic.. anyone have any thoughts on books or threads they might have come across?
Ancient Christian Magic: Coptic Texts of Ritual Power Marvin W. Meyer and Richard Smith, Princeton University Press; 1st Edition (March 15, 1999)
https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Christia ... 504&sr=8-1
If I remember correctly, there was an early split in the Christian community between those who thought personal experience was the key thing (see Gnostics wikipedia article below) and those who wanted to wrest control over the early Christian Church's organisation and over what Christians were allowed to believe. The Gnostics lost and nearly had all traces of them eradicated. That seems like it was a mystical tradition but afaik it was not particularly magical.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism
The Coptic Church was, according to tradition, founded in Egypt by an apostle of Jesus - Mark. And was very influential early on. They seem to have been steeped in magical tradition, as perhaps was typical of Egyptian society at the time anyway.
I can't speak for whether the book is what you need but I'm guessing it's a valuable reference on the surviving original sources on such things.
Whether or not things like the PaterNoster 'magical' word square - Sator Tenet Opera Rotas - was actually magical, or a cryptic way to encode a Christian message, is apparently a controversial (ie uncertain) matter. In any case, that emerged around the mid first century AD, centuries before I think the medieval Christian magical phase began.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sator_Square
The Lord's prayer in the Bible's New Testament is based on a Jewish kabbalistic prayer. But I understand it was really only in the medieval period - ie not ancient times - that Christian occultists began to incorporate kabbalistic features into a Christianised form of magical practice. Kabbala was originally a Jewish mystical/magical tradition - ie not strictly speaking an ancient Christian one. The fact that The Lord's Prayer appears in 2 gospels may be because Jesus/Yeshua actually taught that to his followers and that his cousin John the Baptist taught that to other Essenes - a mystical Jewish sect. (It seems very credible to me that John the Baptist and Jesus/Yeshua could have been Essenes at some point.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essenes
Yet this would probably have been because Christianity emerged from a Judaic society. Apparently - according to historical documentaries I've seen - for quite a while the first Christians most likely also considered themselves religiously Jewish and do not seem to have been into magic. (There are even stories in the New Testament told against well known practicing magicians of the time.)
tl/dr: If you're looking for ancient Christian magic, the early Coptics may be the best source, as they seem to have been steeped in magic. I haven't read the book but I doubt that Christ was the source of the magical tradition. I suspect it was a barely-Christianised version of Egyptian folk magic. If you want medieval versions, again In my view they're not ultimately Christian in origin but are Christianised versions of kabbala or folk magic.
There's a minority tradition that Jesus did learn magic and healing in Egypt (see the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aquar ... the_Christ
There's also a minority tradition that not only did Saint Thomas go to India after the crucifixion of Jesus but that Jesus himself (Issa) went there and to Tibet afterward too and lived out the rest of his natural days there. I watched a fascinating documentary on that. There are also speculated links between the Essenes to India. Could the Essenes have learned yogic breathing techniques from India and did Jesus use yogic training to appear dead while only in suspended animation?
See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_India_(book)
In some minority traditions Jesus is seen rather as an Ascended Master with special powers.
None of these kind of speculations have any convincing evidence behind them but they're all attractive theories. I wouldn't go so far as to say they count as ancient Christian magic - but I think some later Christian magicians may have thought of Jesus more as an ascended master with paranormal powers than as the literal son of Jehovah/Yahweh in a classic religious sense. Or maybe a mixture of both.
The thing with events that happened so long ago is we can't really separate truth from speculation and there have been layer upon layer of retelling the stories, so it's hard to identify what the original narrative even was.
I hope some of that was useful, or at least interesting.
PS See https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/dai ... and-magic/. Early Christians seem to have continued with pre-Christian habits, such as wearing amulets. Like European pre-Christian practices seem to have survived as folk magic for centuries after Christianity arrived.
You must also understand there are many practitioners of magick here. Please mind this and word your thoughts accordingly.
I am attaching a snapshot of this forum's logo, in case you missed seeing it.
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also the first wiki link was an interesting read.Lewk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:37 pmThis looks interesting...but expensive, as it's probably out of print.Kvedulf133 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:55 am I'm now in search of possible ancient christian magic.. anyone have any thoughts on books or threads they might have come across?
Ancient Christian Magic: Coptic Texts of Ritual Power Marvin W. Meyer and Richard Smith, Princeton University Press; 1st Edition (March 15, 1999)
https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Christia ... 504&sr=8-1
If I remember correctly, there was an early split in the Christian community between those who thought personal experience was the key thing (see Gnostics wikipedia article below) and those who wanted to wrest control over the early Christian Church's organisation and over what Christians were allowed to believe. The Gnostics lost and nearly had all traces of them eradicated. That seems like it was a mystical tradition but afaik it was not particularly magical.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism
The Coptic Church was, according to tradition, founded in Egypt by an apostle of Jesus - Mark. And was very influential early on. They seem to have been steeped in magical tradition, as perhaps was typical of Egyptian society at the time anyway.
I can't speak for whether the book is what you need but I'm guessing it's a valuable reference on the surviving original sources on such things.
Whether or not things like the PaterNoster 'magical' word square - Sator Tenet Opera Rotas - was actually magical, or a cryptic way to encode a Christian message, is apparently a controversial (ie uncertain) matter. In any case, that emerged around the mid first century AD, centuries before I think the medieval Christian magical phase began.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sator_Square
The Lord's prayer in the Bible's New Testament is based on a Jewish kabbalistic prayer. But I understand it was really only in the medieval period - ie not ancient times - that Christian occultists began to incorporate kabbalistic features into a Christianised form of magical practice. Kabbala was originally a Jewish mystical/magical tradition - ie not strictly speaking an ancient Christian one. The fact that The Lord's Prayer appears in 2 gospels may be because Jesus/Yeshua actually taught that to his followers and that his cousin John the Baptist taught that to other Essenes - a mystical Jewish sect. (It seems very credible to me that John the Baptist and Jesus/Yeshua could have been Essenes at some point.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essenes
Yet this would probably have been because Christianity emerged from a Judaic society. Apparently - according to historical documentaries I've seen - for quite a while the first Christians most likely also considered themselves religiously Jewish and do not seem to have been into magic. (There are even stories in the New Testament told against well known practicing magicians of the time.)
tl/dr: If you're looking for ancient Christian magic, the early Coptics may be the best source, as they seem to have been steeped in magic. I haven't read the book but I doubt that Christ was the source of the magical tradition. I suspect it was a barely-Christianised version of Egyptian folk magic. If you want medieval versions, again In my view they're not ultimately Christian in origin but are Christianised versions of kabbala or folk magic.
There's a minority tradition that Jesus did learn magic and healing in Egypt (see the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aquar ... the_Christ
There's also a minority tradition that not only did Saint Thomas go to India after the crucifixion of Jesus but that Jesus himself (Issa) went there and to Tibet afterward too and lived out the rest of his natural days there. I watched a fascinating documentary on that. There are also speculated links between the Essenes to India. Could the Essenes have learned yogic breathing techniques from India and did Jesus use yogic training to appear dead while only in suspended animation?
See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_India_(book)
In some minority traditions Jesus is seen rather as an Ascended Master with special powers.
None of these kind of speculations have any convincing evidence behind them but they're all attractive theories. I wouldn't go so far as to say they count as ancient Christian magic - but I think some later Christian magicians may have thought of Jesus more as an ascended master with paranormal powers than as the literal son of Jehovah/Yahweh in a classic religious sense. Or maybe a mixture of both.
The thing with events that happened so long ago is we can't really separate truth from speculation and there have been layer upon layer of retelling the stories, so it's hard to identify what the original narrative even was.
I hope some of that was useful, or at least interesting.
PS See https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/dai ... and-magic/. Early Christians seem to have continued with pre-Christian habits, such as wearing amulets. Like European pre-Christian practices seem to have survived as folk magic for centuries after Christianity arrived.
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