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Djinns Aren't Your Slave.

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:31 pm
by mcmsinger
One thing I want to point out is that you shouldn't think that djinns are your slaves and that you can control them 100%.

There is no such thing as something for nothing.

Some Guidelines.

1) Djinns are a servant NOT slave. Likewise, you should be grateful for what they do for you and give them thanks and rewards. Be happy for what they do for you and they WILL show you respect.

2) Don't expect to treat them like crap, not pay attention, give them nothing and just order them around. Example: When you have a maid in the house, do you think they will take pleasure in cleaning your home if you disrespect them, yell, scream? No! Samething with djinns and spirits.

3) Get to understand your djinn well. Ask them questions and listen to them. I know they are your servant BUT ask them if anything offends them or if they don't like something you did. This will make them more happy with you as their master.

4) Nobody likes to be bossed around. But everybody likes to make deals and pacts. In other words, do not expect "freebies" all the time. Give your djinn some respect in return and smile at them. Be strict by all means but show them that you also care about them. But again, at the sametime, show the djinn that you are a STRONG LEADER and you will not allow them to disrespect you.

5) Make rules and be clear. But also have consequences for breaking them. They will take you more seriously.

6) Make sure they are happy to be with YOU. Don't force them to be with you.

The point I am trying to come across is that, I have read online that many people try to "control", "force" or "take advantage" of a djinn. Which by the way, many times the djinn will brainwash you before you ever control it or kill you.

This type of attitude and intent will NEVER allow you to bond with a djinn.

To become a TRUE LEADER, one must respect, lay down rules, GIVE IN RETURN and ask for others of their needs.

You can never control someone and djinns are NO different. They have a life, mind and choice of their own. They aren't some type of robot with no feelings.

And they sure as hell won't take crap from you, If you think you can use it like some type of slave.

Which is why many times when people summon a djinn, they end up getting hurt. Why? Their intent was to use the djinn and give nothing. Djinns don't like being controlled. They may not say it to your face but believe me, they don't appreciate being told what to do with nothing given back.

The type of attitude and intent one should be after is one which is kind yet firm, persuasive, assertive yet considerate and fair. They will respect you automatically because you are showing them that they aren't just some type of toy but they are a creature with their own thinking as well.

This is the type of control that you should be after. The something for nothing type of control is one which leads to a karmic backfire and it will come with a price larger no matter what.

Conclusion? Treat your spirits with respect. But remember if they disrespect you, do not take crap from them. This will show them that all though you are nice, you will not put up with them trying to bully you and you aren't afraid to show your assertive side. They will automatically realize you aren't some dumby and any sort of "tricks" are completely inapplicable under your authority. This way it's WIN-WIN and never will a djinn challenge you or try to hurt you because in their heart they WILL remember how fair. assertive and good you were with them. That's how loyalty is gained and they will protect you and be happy to carry out your tasks even though you may offer nothing sometimes because they will know that you aren't just attempting to put them into a prison and in-slave them.

Re: Djinns Aren't Your Slave.

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:47 pm
by mcmsinger
Also another thing I want point out is this.

Djinns can't by any means change your life automatically. They are just a aid. YOU are the leader of your destiny and a djinn is simply a part of the team work in your life to help.

only YOU can decide and make choices. Success starts with CHOICE and that choice has to be made by YOU.

Remember, success and happiness must first start in YOURSELF.

Once you make a choice of what you want. Put some effort into your goal or objective. Then ask your djinn for aid. They will be more than happy to help because they will see that you aren't just depending on them to be your slave.

Never buy a djinn with the hope that they will do all your crap, all your work load and you can sit back and relax while someone does everything for you and you can treat them like <<Removed by Mod>>.

Doesn't work that way and never will work that way. If you are looking for a slave- Build a state of the art robot which will cost up to billions of dollars to produce to be able to understand and carry out complex tasks.

Re: Djinns Aren't Your Slave.

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:06 am
by starlighter

Good points that you make, I've never ever wanted my Djinn's to feel like slaves, and always give them time off to go about their realm, and not worry about what I'm doing.

What do you feel are adequate offerings? Just courious your take on what to "give"

In Light, starlighter

Re: Djinns Aren't Your Slave.

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:49 am
by LadyMoonfyre
Hello, curious as well. So what type of pacts/bonds/agreements do you make with your djinn? Or what kind of gifts/rewards do you give to them?

Re: Djinns Aren't Your Slave.

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:19 am
by emstrange1
Autumnorange: Some members on the board have talked about offerings of wine, honey, and chocolate for their djinn.

Re: Djinns Aren't Your Slave.

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 2:33 am
by Haunted Curiosities
Excellent post on Djinn and so very true. :applause:

Re: Djinns Aren't Your Slave.

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:13 am
by joy
:D mcmsinger, I totally agree; just think about the resentment that would develop if someone bossed you around and disrespected you all of the time. I used to work for this guy who was a real DICK, he treated everyone like they were less than just because of his position of power, needless to say, he was not well liked at all. So I can image the way a being that has supernatural power would handle mistreatment :scared:
My problem right now is that I haven't develop the insight to communicate with them yet except dreams which I usually forget most of the time. But I have never considered the djinn or any other spirit to be my slaves, that would cause more harm than good I think. What a great guideline, I was wondering, what method do you use to communicate with your djinn?

Re: Djinns Aren't Your Slave.

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:21 am
by Beech
Good post, mc. Looks like you've been doing your homework! :)

Thanks for sharing. :thankyou:

While I haven't seen any postings on the forum where people have tried to "control", "force" or "take advantage" of their djinn, I may have missed something. And, people get ideas from elsewhere onlilne too.

Better safe than sorry. Thank you for posting wonderful rules for developing a sound foundation between Djinn and keeper.

Re: Djinns Aren't Your Slave.

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:28 am
by Wasnt_Me
Thanks for the post, but you're probably preaching to the choir.

If someone buys djinn to treat them as slaves, they probably have to do a lot of work on the type of human being they are in the first place.

Re: Djinns Aren't Your Slave.

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:20 pm
by Rain
Where did this idea of slaves come from?

Is it the misunderstanding of the Master-Servant role?

You seem to have taken something personaly..what happened? :?