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Re: Ilum Khodam praise

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Chavah wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 11:10 am
Sound like a very good guide that can improve things for us. Which realm is it coming from?
Is it Immortal category or angelic, living being? Where do you get yours again from?
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Hey guys, so what is exactly an Ilum Khodam?
They are like a spirit guide more than djinn, they focus on helping you tap into your abilities. They show/guide you how to get things yourself and help you open your senses. They are protective and influence others and situations around you. Mine is very comforting and supportive and always tells me if I'm going about something wrong, by showing me a better way to see things. They really are lovely, they focus on showing signs or just changing situations to help you figure out the best way to do things.
I got mine from Mystic morning treasures, a custom conjure. A living entity, they are great for giving you knowledge and not demanding at all.


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Re: Ilum Khodam praise

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lolaberry wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:50 am
Angelik wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:25 am
I finally got one, but I feel it is hard to connect. No manifestation so far. Like no telepathy, no vision, no hearing, no dream, nothing LOL. Any suggestion that would help with bonding with this specific type of being?
Ooh great, where is yours from? In the write up I got it said be patient with them. It can take months to get a deep bond as they bond with you stronger than a djinn. Mine is quiet at the moment but has been making things really go my way and work out well for me. She has increased my abilities to sense things better and due to having to go to hospital has worked with my other entities to make everything benefit me and just fall into place.
Thanks for confirming! :8) yes that is the info I got too, and I know I need to be patient, but I was wondering if I am not doing something that I should. But if that is how it is also in your case then I will wait. :8) I usually get visions etc. I did get one at one point but he had some kind of crown and I am not sure ilmu khodams wear crowns, so it can be it was some other spirit.


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Re: Ilum Khodam praise

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Angelik wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:55 pm
lolaberry wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:50 am
Angelik wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:25 am
I finally got one, but I feel it is hard to connect. No manifestation so far. Like no telepathy, no vision, no hearing, no dream, nothing LOL. Any suggestion that would help with bonding with this specific type of being?
Ooh great, where is yours from? In the write up I got it said be patient with them. It can take months to get a deep bond as they bond with you stronger than a djinn. Mine is quiet at the moment but has been making things really go my way and work out well for me. She has increased my abilities to sense things better and due to having to go to hospital has worked with my other entities to make everything benefit me and just fall into place.
Thanks for confirming! :8) yes that is the info I got too, and I know I need to be patient, but I was wondering if I am not doing something that I should. But if that is how it is also in your case then I will wait. :8) I usually get visions etc. I did get one at one point but he had some kind of crown and I am not sure ilmu khodams wear crowns, so it can be it was some other spirit.
There are Khodams who wear crowns.. those should be Muwakhils... Or khodam kings...

Khodam mean helper or servant in Arabic and Indonesian...

You should ask yours.. any special holy chants to maintain it?


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Re: Ilum Khodam praise

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Judgement24 wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:26 pm
Angelik wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:55 pm
lolaberry wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:50 am
Angelik wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:25 am
I finally got one, but I feel it is hard to connect. No manifestation so far. Like no telepathy, no vision, no hearing, no dream, nothing LOL. Any suggestion that would help with bonding with this specific type of being?
Ooh great, where is yours from? In the write up I got it said be patient with them. It can take months to get a deep bond as they bond with you stronger than a djinn. Mine is quiet at the moment but has been making things really go my way and work out well for me. She has increased my abilities to sense things better and due to having to go to hospital has worked with my other entities to make everything benefit me and just fall into place.
Thanks for confirming! :8) yes that is the info I got too, and I know I need to be patient, but I was wondering if I am not doing something that I should. But if that is how it is also in your case then I will wait. :8) I usually get visions etc. I did get one at one point but he had some kind of crown and I am not sure ilmu khodams wear crowns, so it can be it was some other spirit.
Sorry, I can't seem to edit the above post so I added additional information below. So sorry :)

There are Khodams who wear crowns.. those could be Muwakhils... Or khodam kings... But Muwakhils are usually highly religious... And difficult to attain. Some people takes years to invoke a Muwakhil.

From what I read, in order to summon a Muwakhil, a lot of religious rituals (fasting, prayers, chants) have to be practised and maintained for them to be summoned. And they usually assign a lower level khodam/guardian spirit and are not binded themselves.

Khodam mean helper or servant in Arabic and Indonesian...

You should ask yours.. any special holy chants to maintain it?
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Judgement24 wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:26 pm
Angelik wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:55 pm
lolaberry wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:50 am
Angelik wrote:
Sun Jul 04, 2021 4:25 am
I finally got one, but I feel it is hard to connect. No manifestation so far. Like no telepathy, no vision, no hearing, no dream, nothing LOL. Any suggestion that would help with bonding with this specific type of being?
Ooh great, where is yours from? In the write up I got it said be patient with them. It can take months to get a deep bond as they bond with you stronger than a djinn. Mine is quiet at the moment but has been making things really go my way and work out well for me. She has increased my abilities to sense things better and due to having to go to hospital has worked with my other entities to make everything benefit me and just fall into place.
Thanks for confirming! :8) yes that is the info I got too, and I know I need to be patient, but I was wondering if I am not doing something that I should. But if that is how it is also in your case then I will wait. :8) I usually get visions etc. I did get one at one point but he had some kind of crown and I am not sure ilmu khodams wear crowns, so it can be it was some other spirit.
There are Khodams who wear crowns.. those should be Muwakhils... Or khodam kings...

Khodam mean helper or servant in Arabic and Indonesian...

You should ask yours.. any special holy chants to maintain it?
Thanks for the info! That's very interesting, if Khodams can wear crowns and gives me some hope I actually saw him. The binding of mine was not sold as a King but maybe he is a King in reality?

The conjurer said there are no specific chants or rituals needed, only respect for his vessel and for the powers he gives, not to abuse of them for dark purposes.


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Judgement24 wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:48 pm
There are Khodams who wear crowns.. those could be Muwakhils... Or khodam kings... But Muwakhils are usually highly religious... And difficult to attain. Some people takes years to invoke a Muwakhil.
...
Khodam mean helper or servant in Arabic and Indonesian...
Muwakkil basically means "representative agent". It can refer to angel, jinn, or human. Khodam sometimes is called muwakkil when its role is to represent the human keeper in spiritual/magickal matter.
While there are a lot of practitioners who consider muwakkil as the king or leader, from its basic definition a representative agent is not always the leader. Best to understand that each practitioner and tradition have different definition and belief system, and ask the khodam's conjurer about the status of their khodam/muwakkil.

Interestingly in Islamic finance, muwakkil is the client being represented by the wakil (agent):
https://www.mondaq.com/contracts-and-co ... ic-finance


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darkwing dook wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:41 pm
Judgement24 wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:48 pm
There are Khodams who wear crowns.. those could be Muwakhils... Or khodam kings... But Muwakhils are usually highly religious... And difficult to attain. Some people takes years to invoke a Muwakhil.
...
Khodam mean helper or servant in Arabic and Indonesian...
Muwakkil basically means "representative agent". It can refer to angel, jinn, or human. Khodam sometimes is called muwakkil when its role is to represent the human keeper in spiritual/magickal matter.
While there are a lot of practitioners who consider muwakkil as the king or leader, from its basic definition a representative agent is not always the leader. Best to understand that each practitioner and tradition have different definition and belief system, and ask the khodam's conjurer about the status of their khodam/muwakkil.

Interestingly in Islamic finance, muwakkil is the client being represented by the wakil (agent):
https://www.mondaq.com/contracts-and-co ... ic-finance
Good advice. :) Yes, wakil means "representative" or " witness" in Arabic/Indonesian/Malay. A witness in legal documents will be called a wakil.

I was actually looking at a Muwakhil but they are very righteous and holy..

I was actually trying to invoke them myself but the rituals, fasting, etc. could be difficult to achieve.. and then as told by one of my spirits to keep trying one day.

The marid djinn of mine told me they are more powerful than her but should not be abused...
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Judgement24 wrote:
Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:35 am
I was actually trying to invoke them myself but the rituals, fasting, etc. could be difficult to achieve..
If you're trying to do that, it's better if you find a mentor or teacher to teach and guide you.
It can be very dangerous if you've never done it successfully before.


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Agreed and thanks for the advice. Have read from another resource of a girl trying to invoke the Muwakhil and got punished.

I would most likely purchase one in future. Not easy to do except for the most religious and spiritually strong.


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Judgement24 wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:58 am
Agreed and thanks for the advice. Have read from another resource of a girl trying to invoke the Muwakhil and got punished.

I would most likely purchase one in future. Not easy to do except for the most religious and spiritually strong.
Got punished for which reason?


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