Creepy Hollows Bindings, Rebindings, etc

[draco_star898]

I think its more about how much energy is put behind the creation of the binding magick instead of how much energy or power a spirit has. I know that they talk about when you first start doing self binding you are only going to bind at class 1 or 2 depending on your personal energy, and as you get stronger you'll be able to bind at higher strength. So it has a lot to do with how present the energy will be behind the binding and how present that allows the spirits energy to feel to you, but it doesn't effect how strong their powers are. I have a djinn who was bound at class 5 who has an immense amount of energy he puts towards wish granting, but as far as how I feel his energy goes, his binding isn't as strongly felt as the c5t3 binding I have of another djinn, but that doesn't lessen his powers in manifesting goals at all.

[Metheus North]

Hugs and love Draco!

I get it now! Thank you so much. That really helped me and my confusion.

[madgar29]

CH has an adoption section. Altought you have to meet criteria. My question sorry if its already been asked or already in the shop. Csn you intuitively connect to pictures of vessels and see if they want to be bonded to their current owners or not? Spirits that were not conjured by CH. But owners want to see oe know if they would like to be bridge or bonded? I'm probably asking a repeat question.

[Alaric]

CH has an adoption section. Altought you have to meet criteria. My question sorry if its already been asked or already in the shop. Csn you intuitively connect to pictures of vessels and see if they want to be bonded to their current owners or not? Spirits that were not conjured by CH. But owners want to see oe know if they would like to be bridge or bonded? I'm probably asking a repeat question.

Firstly, as this thread starts off talking about CH rebindings, I think it's on-topic to mention that CH will from time to time have spirits that they have previously bound returned to them for whatever reason, as well as some that originated from other conjurers, who presumably are no longer active or contactable. Afaik that's the pool from which the reverse adoptions (RAs) come. I think sometimes CH pre-conjures that have not been sold for a long time might also be added to that pool.

Back to the question - I hope I've understood it correctly. In case I've not, I've given 2 answers.

1. CH RAs

I've never seen RAs listed and have only found out what I've got after the order has been completed. The keeper is presented to the pool of RA spirits to see who comes forward. So it's the exact opposite of what you've asked about. ie There's no chance to see RA listings or vessels or tune in and sense which might want to be with you as a companion. It's all done by CH.

So there are no pictures of vessels.

In fact, I'm not sure all the CH RA spirits will even be bound to vessels. For one thing some were probably bound to spirit.

2. Non-CH RAs

I guess some sellers might put up individual RA listings. Have you seen some - is that what you're asking about? Of course, as with a pre-conjure listing, that might give a prospective keeper a chance to consult their gut feeling on whether that spirit would be right for them. A vessel may - or may not - be shown in the listing.

It'd be best to ask the relevant seller, as there's no standard approach with these things. But to me a reverse adoption isn't a choice made by a keeper at all.

You may be able to get a definitive answer from whichever seller you're interested in buying from.

[madgar29]

CH has an adoption section. Altought you have to meet criteria. My question sorry if its already been asked or already in the shop. Csn you intuitively connect to pictures of vessels and see if they want to be bonded to their current owners or not? Spirits that were not conjured by CH. But owners want to see oe know if they would like to be bridge or bonded? I'm probably asking a repeat question.

Firstly, as this thread starts off talking about CH rebindings, I think it's on-topic to mention that CH will from time to time have spirits that they have previously bound returned to them for whatever reason, as well as some that originated from other conjurers, who presumably are no longer active or contactable. Afaik that's the pool from which the reverse adoptions (RAs) come. I think sometimes CH pre-conjures that have not been sold for a long time might also be added to that pool.

Back to the question - I hope I've understood it correctly. In case I've not, I've given 2 answers.

1. CH RAs

I've never seen RAs listed and have only found out what I've got after the order has been completed. The keeper is presented to the pool of RA spirits to see who comes forward. So it's the exact opposite of what you've asked about. ie There's no chance to see RA listings or vessels or tune in and sense which might want to be with you as a companion. It's all done by CH.

So there are no pictures of vessels.

In fact, I'm not sure all the CH RA spirits will even be bound to vessels. For one thing some were probably bound to spirit.

2. Non-CH RAs

I guess some sellers might put up individual RA listings. Have you seen some - is that what you're asking about? Of course, as with a pre-conjure listing, that might give a prospective keeper a chance to consult their gut feeling on whether that spirit would be right for them. A vessel may - or may not - be shown in the listing.

It'd be best to ask the relevant seller, as there's no standard approach with these things. But to me a reverse adoption isn't a choice made by a keeper at all.

You may be able to get a definitive answer from whichever seller you're interested in buying from.

I guess I was not clear. I know reverse adoptions from CH
The customer is presented to the spirits spirits pick the customer if one does not step forward they do a new custom conjure. Which I really love that idea. Shows CH conjures to the individual energy signature. I like it


My second saying. I have spirit vessels would CH remotely ask them if they would like to be binded if not bonded to their keeper. I guess I should have numbered my message two parts. For example I feel like one of my spirit vessels is strongly does like me but the connect may be weak.

[Alaric]

I guess I was not clear. I know reverse adoptions from CH
The customer is presented to the spirits spirits pick the customer if one does not step forward they do a new custom conjure. Which I really love that idea. Shows CH conjures to the individual energy signature. I like it


My second saying. I have spirit vessels would CH remotely ask them if they would like to be binded if not bonded to their keeper. I guess I should have numbered my message two parts. For example I feel like one of my spirit vessels is strongly does like me but the connect may be weak.

Ok. Thanks for clarifying. I apologise in advance if I still misunderstand any of what you're asking. I may well be seeing it differently to you anyway, but for what I think are good reasons.

In my opinion, if a seller is genuine and a spirit is present with the vessel, the way to build a good connection is really up to us, as Keepers. Spending quiet time with them. Talking with them etc. Not rebinding. Keep at it. I don't think a rebinding is the right solution.

a) Even if I'm wrong on that, if you have a spirit companion from another seller, bound to a vessel, with whom you feel a weak connection, CH isn't going to offer to rebind them for you. You'd really need to contact the seller you got them from.

b) If you have a spirit companion from CH, bound to a vessel, with whom you feel a weak connection, again I don't expect CH will think they need rebinding.

Was that any help?

[madgar29]

I guess I was not clear. I know reverse adoptions from CH
The customer is presented to the spirits spirits pick the customer if one does not step forward they do a new custom conjure. Which I really love that idea. Shows CH conjures to the individual energy signature. I like it


My second saying. I have spirit vessels would CH remotely ask them if they would like to be binded if not bonded to their keeper. I guess I should have numbered my message two parts. For example I feel like one of my spirit vessels is strongly does like me but the connect may be weak.

Ok. Thanks for clarifying. I apologise in advance if I still misunderstand any of what you're asking. I may well be seeing it differently to you anyway, but for what I think are good reasons.

In my opinion, if a seller is genuine and a spirit is present with the vessel, the way to build a good connection is really up to us, as Keepers. Spending quiet time with them. Talking with them etc. Not rebinding. Keep at it. I don't think a rebinding is the right solution.

a) Even if I'm wrong on that, if you have a spirit companion from another seller, bound to a vessel, with whom you feel a weak connection, CH isn't going to offer to rebind them for you. You'd really need to contact the seller you got them from.

b) If you have a spirit companion from CH, bound to a vessel, with whom you feel a weak connection, again I don't expect CH will think they need rebinding.

Was that any help?

yes but i did look at the shop they do have connection gemstones. to get stronger connection. so there is that route. just have to pick the correct type of being which i didnt see human because im blind and its a huge list

[sweetqt72]

I would not work with a seller who claims to redo work done by someone else

It is like having a Ferrari and taking it to another dealership. Your car is guaranteed only through the original Ferrari dealership and they are the experts in the Ferrari you have



I would not want to know the issues that could occur in doing so, when they are dealing with work they have no first hand knowledge of, or even sample their own work.

I had a terrible experience with someone that got their hands on some binding information from another well respected seller and tried to set up their own business, I unknowingly bought something believing they were legit, and experienced an unvetted dark spirit that scared the crap out of me. This was years ago. I could not get ahold of the seller to even remove it right away, and they blew off my terrible experience when I did.
I found out from the original seller much later what happened when I noted some listings looked similar to the inexperienced and dangerous seller. Be careful about reputation and experience. This is serious stuff and you don't need an inexperienced newbie doing it, or someone with no first hand knowledge of the original work.
This is my two cents.
CH has a good reputation.

[souldeep91]

The question I always have with this topic of "nobody can unbind or rebind another person's work" is what you can do if an original seller really isn't available for rebinding or unbinding anymore.
It doesn't necessarily need to be a case of you choosing a "bad" seller.

The seller could have stopped trading and you don't have any contact info, or they could simply have died, because time happens to everyone.
Accidents sadly do, too.

So what should be done if the original seller really cannot be reached anymore?
There must be some emergency machanism in place somewhere to get help from. If there isn't, I feel that is a huge system error then. To refer back to that marriage contract example in this thread, that would be like saying: The original notary who wrote the contract has died, and that is why you cannot get divorced. You have to stay married, no matter how bad it is.

[Magnolia]

So what should be done if the original seller really cannot be reached anymore?
There must be some emergency machanism in place somewhere to get help from. If there isn't, I feel that is a huge system error then. To refer back to that marriage contract example in this thread, that would be like saying: The original notary who wrote the contract has died, and that is why you cannot get divorced. You have to stay married, no matter how bad it is.

Sometimes, there is nothing you can do. If you don't know how something was bound, you cannot be 100% sure any method or action you take will provide the correct result.

This goes back to know the practitioner/seller you are working with. Do not be surprised if you use an Etsy/eBay/Marketplace seller and those marketplaces take down all the metaphysical shops. They, and eBay, Bonanza, etc. have all done it before & will probably do it again. Which means you will have zero contact with them if the seller doesn't have other modes of contact; their own website, they give you an email/contact info, etc.

Do not be surprised if you buy from a marketplace and the seller up and disappears one day, out of the blue, for no reason. Those marketplaces are temporary and under control by the third-party company. This is all information we have said over and over and over again. Whether it's 20 days, 20 weeks, or 20 months, or 20 years later, everything said still applies.

It's not a huge system error, it's just how it is. There are many lost arts in the world, not just in the supernatural. There are many things that exist in the world that people don't know how it was done. They can speculate, they can try to replicate, they can try to resolve some explanation, but the fact of the matter is, no one knows.

Most practitioners have their own way of doing things. We definitely have our own way of doing things and those methods are never shared outside of CH. There are only 2 people (myself and Ash) who know everything that we do and all the steps involved.

In that regard, those are the facts. You don't have to agree with facts, but it doesn't negate the existence of the fact.

If anything were to happen to us, we have instructions for providing, publicly, unbinding instructions for our bindings. Because, we aren't going to leave people in a lurch. In my opinion, if other practitioners/shops are going to stop selling or practicing, they should extend that same courtesy. They could post the information on any public website that is free, or they are welcome to post it here, so people aren't left hanging.

Let's not confuse a few things, keeping in mind we can only speak for CH:

Spirits, Entities, Immortals

Marital contract comparison - it's okay in a very very basic example.

A marital contract is a piece of paper that is filled out and filed with the government, not a binding that is actually performed. It's 2 people agreeing to be together, but no one is doing multi-layered spells and bindings associated with keeping your contact and interaction sacred, personal, and free from outside influence.

Any spirit or entity who has a binding with you as the Keeper doesn't mean they are held and restricted to you only and live inside their vessel. They don't. They have perfect freedom of movement and go back their own existence in addition to having a protected, safe, immediate connection to you.

If something happens to you, as the Keeper, unless you've made other arrangements, the binding is broken when you pass.

You will want to be sure you know what kind of binding the seller is providing. Is it a proper binding? Is it an attachment? What if you change your mind later? What does the seller advise? There are a decent number of Etsy sellers who say right in their bios that they will not unbind, their bindings are for a lifetime, so choose wisely.

If you change your mind later, and some other seller tells you they'll unbind for a fee, or even free, that should raise your eyebrow immediately. How can someone who doesn't know what the original practitioner did, perform an unbinding? Was there a contract between you and the spirit/entity? Was there a contract between the practitioner and the spirit/entity? What kind of binding was performed? Were there security measures employed? Including, security measures that can backfire on binding tampering? Was it just an attachment?

These are all important things to know, because there are a number of different ways this can go when you have some outsider tamper with the bindings. Which, is why we don't tamper with other practitioners bindings. Not only is it unethical on premise alone, but if we tamper with a binding and then cause a very unhappy and unnecessary negative situation for the Keeper, it's going to be on our conscience.

You need to ask any seller practitioner:

- What kind of binding is this?
- What if I change my mind?
- What if I find out me and the companion aren't compatible?
- How can I get this unbound if I change my mind?
- Would standard banishing techniques work to break your binding?
- Can another seller/practitioner unbind your binding if you aren't available?

You need to ask these questions. There are uncomfortable and inconvenient truths which exist in every aspect of life, not just the supernatural. If you make a decision and take an action, you may or may not be able to undo it later. This is why asking questions and knowing who you are working with is important.

Spells, Rituals, Ceremonial Bindings

These are different. They aren't like companions who have freedom of movement. There are questions you need to ask in regards to these as well.

- Can you unbind/deactivate/undo the spell at a later date? If so, how?
- In the case of CH bindings, you can simply UnBridge something that is bridged and the magick lives only in the vessel.
- In the case of being bound to spirit or a Master Vessel, you can move the binding to a vessel and it lives only in the vessel.
- Is there anything you need to do to be sure the magick has no future impact/influence?

In any case of any binding, this is your journey, your life, and you need to ask questions and advocate for yourself. You need to know real, viable answers to questions. Over the years, we have received a ridiculous volume of emails related to these situations, and continue to get them routinely. Most of the time, there is nothing we can do to help someone. Know the answers to these questions!

Anyone can try to help you, but just because a powerful person gives you an unbinding ritual or unbinding spell to use, or they do it for you, absolutely in no way means it is 100% resolved. You cannot unbind something when you do not know how it was bound. You could be missing key aspects that need to be utilized/resolved in the unbinding, and when you miss those key aspects, at best you just don't have an effective unbinding. At worst, you cause the person unnecessary harm/drama from tampering with something that has security measures in place.