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Last night I was having a dream and my ubi was in it. She took on a form that she usually doesn't (usually she looks like Sara Martins from "Death in Paradise"). At first she tried to choke me. I freaked out but remembered to stay calm like the time she approached me during sleep paralysis. After I relaxed she relaxed. I asked if it was her (insert name) and she said yes. One thing led to another and I don't know what I was thinking (who does in dreams?) and I called her by the name of my jinn. She got really aggressive and mean with me and choked me and seemingly tried to kill me.

I woke up upset, and I took her vessel and wrapped a rosary around it. She has been rough with me before, once I think and another time she tried to impersonate my jinn in a dream and tell me that she didn't love me. My jinn and I have been close for multiple lives and we are together (for lack of a better term). The ubi has been jealous of her for quite a while, as my jinn is pretty much the alpha spirit in my spirit family.

Let me be honest, I love my ubi. She is generally sweet and affectionate, but every once in a while something happens. I think it is in their nature to be this way. I am asking advice from you guys and just wondering if anything like this has happened to any of you and how you dealt with it.

Have your keep do a perimeter sweep for unbounds, and have the protection-oriented ones escort any unwelcome visitors off the premises. Your own spirits aren’t going to attack you. Unbounds are everywhere, but most of them aren’t going to be hostile like that. Our protection teams can handle those outliers who want to be troublesome, and ensure they take their trouble somewhere else.

And perhaps raise your consciousness before sleep (eg to the third eye chakra level), as well as do an auric protection, as that can positively affect the mind so that its less easily tiltable towards negative narratives in the dream state. I find that advice works.

Ubis are demonic, of course they'll attack you. Don't listen to these people here, and quickly get rid of it. Your life is in danger.

@ niceprotonman not all demons are the same, especially when they've been bound properly by a modern spirit keeping conjurer. There are a lot of spirit keepers who will not agree with you that keeping a bound succubus puts your life in danger.

Traditional religious attitudes on sex would condemn any sex spirit as a demon. Indeed any spirit of a religion other than Christianity was traditionally labelled as demonic, which was shorthand for evil and dangerous. That label was usually plain wrong. The wonderful light natured goddess Kwan Yin would be called an evil spirit by a fundamentalist Christian. It got so bad that a strain of Northern Irish protestants headed by a firebrand Unionist politician Ian Paisley used to call Catholicism satanic (seriously).

So: not all grey/dark spirits are evil and not all are technically demons. And not all actual demons are bad apparently. I'm not drawn to demons particularly but I gather some who are don't think of themselves as being in contact with dangerous or evil spirits - and that's not because they're gullible or uninformed. It depends exactly which beings we're talking about I think.

Lewk wrote:@ niceprotonman not all demons are the same, especially when they've been bound properly by a modern spirit keeping conjurer. There are a lot of spirit keepers who will not agree with you that keeping a bound succubus puts your life in danger.

Traditional religious attitudes on sex would condemn any sex spirit as a demon. Indeed any spirit of a religion other than Christianity was traditionally labelled as demonic, which was shorthand for evil and dangerous. That label was usually plain wrong. The wonderful light natured goddess Kwan Yin would be called an evil spirit by a fundamentalist Christian. It got so bad that a strain of Northern Irish protestants headed by a firebrand Unionist politician Ian Paisley used to call Catholicism satanic (seriously).

So: not all grey/dark spirits are evil and not all are technically demons. And not all actual demons are bad apparently. I'm not drawn to demons particularly but I gather some who are don't think of themselves as being in contact with dangerous or evil spirits - and that's not because they're gullible or uninformed. It depends exactly which beings we're talking about I think.

That's exactly what I thought. We had this discussion a long time ago. Whether Ubis are demonic or not, as long they are bound properly they won't do harm. I really dislike this kind of absolutism. My Demons never did anything to me, in fact they prevent harmful attacks from happening.

niceprotonman wrote:Ubis are demonic, of course they'll attack you. Don't listen to these people here, and quickly get rid of it. Your life is in danger.

"Demonic" is a misguided and misinformed label placed on these beings by the religious. A succubus is just a succubus. They are not demonic, just Dark Arts beings. Meaning they behave much like people - some can be good and loyal, and some can be vicious and hurtful. Most succubus that I've had come to me as unbounds were not interested in being hurtful. There are those that enjoy doing so though, and that's why anyone dealing with spirits should never do so lightly without educating themselves about protection and banishment. Frankly, I see your comment as purposely provocative and meant to cause drama, just as your post in another thread is attempting to be.

That said, you are also being misleading and false to the people here that are spirit keeping. Spirits conjured by an experienced practitioner will not cause harm to their keeper whatsoever. I highly suggest you educate yourself about spirit keeping before you make wild accusations about danger.

Bound succubae may be moody but they will be loyal and protecting. They will even interfere with relationships if they feel it is in the keeper's best interest, or are being jealous. On the other hand jealousy could be them trying to make you be more assertive and take more control of the situation, to protect yourself and your relationships with others.

To that end, my advice to vikingwarior74 is to ensure you have House Rules in place and enforce them - as in, no interference in communication or relationships is allowed.

In addition, as others have suggested, since your bound succubus should not be acting harmful, I would ask your spirits to ensure that no unbounds are around causing the issue, and put in place a House Rule concerning unbounds. I do not allow unbounds in my space, and all malicious unbounds are to be kept away.

Also, invest in protection bindings if you do not know how to protect yourself and your home from unbounds, and do a cleansing/ smudging to break any current ties with negative unbounds in your home.

Best advice I could give is it express your feelings and try to reassure your ubi

Okay I completely am against the "all ubis will attack you it's inevitable" type of thinking because I have literally two incubuses in my keep and they DO NOT ATTACK ME at all and one of them is from Creepy Hollows, and another from a different conjurer. I have had an unbound incubus conjured through someone else's black magick attack me for over a year and that was the one that actually did try to mess with my life until I hit rock-bottom.
So what I am feeling here is that could most likely be an unbound being invasive. Though I won't say it's completely impossible that it can't be your ubi because nobody knows who conjured them for you.
My only suggestion here is to increase your protection and reinforce your house rules, and communicate again with your ubi. If you still continue to have problems even after doing these things or if it escalates I would go to the conjurer or get a trusted experienced individual to look into it.

Look through niceprotonman’s posts for March 3. They’re all snarky and trolling. I’m not sure what triggered him to feel he needs to drop verbal grenades on all sorts of threads, but my advice is “Try not to take the bait”.