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Questions Regarding Offerings

Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 9:21 am
by Seita
Hi everyone,

I just got my first companion from CH, a Succubus and this is my first time being a spirit keeper. So far I've been reading these threads and the Encyclopedia so I've been keeping her in my thoughts, talking to her when I'm alone, been to the park and watched a movie while talking to her in my mind, yesterday I even left her a written note welcoming her home.

With that said, I'm a bit unclear as to how to make an offering. I was told by the CH crew that if you don't want to create an altar (that's a little beyond me right now), I could just have an offering dish for her and that any dish would do.

I read that Succubi like chocolate and mine specificaly also likes the smell of oranges, so I thought I would offer her some traditional orange-flavored chocolate that we have in my country.

My question is, how do I do that? Do I just set out a dish and say it's for her? How long do I leave the chocolate there? Do I take it out of the wrapper? After I take it out do I eat it?

Sorry, as you can tell I'm very new to this, but I'm trying to my best to be welcoming to her :8)

Re: Questions Regarding Offerings

Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 12:37 pm
by stargazerjournal
So, a lot of that is up to you & the personal preferences of the spirit. I've worked with different belief systems and most of them have different rules. My advice (which you can take with a grain of salt) is to cleanse the dish (running it under cold water for a minute or playing music over it are the simplest ways.) Then perform a short dedication - you could just hold it up and announce that it belongs to her, either out loud or telepathically. Then, when you give her an offering, talk to her either out loud or telepathically, and tell her that it's for her. Leave it out for at least an hour, depending on your intentions, whether or not the item is perishable, and her preferences. I would take it out of the wrapper.

It's probably best not to eat it - most of the spirits and gods I work with are fine if I do, but until you get their preference figured out, don't eat the offering. I think kemetic deities in particular prefer to share the food with you? I had some sort of undead thing hanging around for a while that definitely didn't appreciate it when I ate an offered item, lol.

Once an item has been offered and "eaten", it's important to dispose of it in a conscious way. Since it's chocolate, I would say you shouldn't leave it outside for wildlife like I do with most offerings. You might want to bury it or put it in the trash with a short blessing and thanks.

I would re-cleanse and re-dedicate the dish at least once a year. Once every moon cycle is convenient for most people.

Re: Questions Regarding Offerings

Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 3:46 pm
by Darknorth
It all personal preference. I just laid the offerings on the table and say what I wanted to say. I think it is more important that what you said is from the heart and as doing so feeling grateful for what your companion did for you, even if it something small as having someone to talk to. As for what to do with the food, I usually throw it away. Some time I would eat but most of the time I just throw it away. Overall how to perform an offering is very personal and there is no right or wrong way of doing it. Just follow your heart and intuition.

Re: Questions Regarding Offerings

Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 4:51 pm
by Osean
Darknorth wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 3:46 pm It all personal preference. I just laid the offerings on the table and say what I wanted to say. I think it is more important that what you said is from the heart and as doing so feeling grateful for what your companion did for you, even if it something small as having someone to talk to. As for what to do with the food, I usually throw it away. Some time I would eat but most of the time I just throw it away. Overall how to perform an offering is very personal and there is no right or wrong way of doing it. Just follow your heart and intuition.
This is what I do.

Re: Questions Regarding Offerings

Posted: Sun May 21, 2023 1:39 am
by Lewk
Seita wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 9:21 am [...] I'm a bit unclear as to how to make an offering. I was told by the CH crew that if you don't want to create an altar (that's a little beyond me right now), I could just have an offering dish for her and that any dish would do.

I read that Succubi like chocolate and mine specificaly also likes the smell of oranges, so I thought I would offer her some traditional orange-flavored chocolate that we have in my country.

My question is, how do I do that? Do I just set out a dish and say it's for her? How long do I leave the chocolate there? Do I take it out of the wrapper? After I take it out do I eat it?
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What I've gathered from reading CH materials over the last 5 years is:

- With CH conjured & bound spirits an offering isn't strictly speaking necessary
- They don't 'need' them and we don't 'need' to give them
- But our companions will appreciate something given from the heart
- We may benefit from giving an offering , if it's based on a CH association, as that helps us bond and kind of triangulates/connects with the spirit's nature and energy
- Our spirits will definitely appreciate a 'treat' (there are recommended treats in the CH Encyclopedia for many spirit types)

- A gemstone of the CH-recommended type will give them a boost of raw energy.
- We can also give our companions feeding energies via a CH Aeon Orb.
- We can also buy from the CH Shop offerings for a few types of spirit (they include a gemstone,as well as herbs)

- An offering or treat can be left in a suitable container for maybe 24-48 hours. Or less. (Suitable is what feels right for you, I guess. CH use plastic for vessels, so I use and re-use small plastic containers for offerings, as I can be leaving out quite a lot of them. I feel like that for me that does maintain respect. All my fancy bowls are part of my many spirit communes.)
- You can leave it next to their vessel, or near a spirit commune they're a member of (if you've set up commune spaces).
- Tell them you're leaving them the offering and maybe say how long for. They'll take this seriously.
- If it's a CH offering, don't leave it out so long it dries out.
- If it's food (when that's appropriate), I think it's best to not leave it out so long it goes off or rotten.

- My recommendation is: Never eat food or drink drink that has been given to a bound spirit companion, as they'll have consumed it themselves in some way. [Non-spirit keeping offering practices will vary according to what ever the particular tradition is. I'm one whose personal preference is to not mix traditional practices with spirit keeping ones. ]

- I usually take care to dispose of the used offerings carefully in the trash, wrapped in clean kitchen towel paper, or a bag of some sort. It has been altered somehow by the process, so I treat it with care.
- I note that CH doesn't say how their offerings are to be disposed of, so I don't think it's a big issue.

- Always follow what the seller or conjurer of that spirit companion recommends, as what's recommended by another seller may not be appropriate for that spirit.

Possibly the best treat is time spent closely together.

None of this is taken from non-spirit keeping practices. Outside of spirit keeping I've given fruit as an offering, in an Indian way (prasad), then taken it back and eaten it. That's a customary practice. I don't mix and match different approaches, so I absolutely don't offer my spirit companions prasad, like they were Indian deities - I don't do that with them. (Even with my Indian conjured and bound deities I don't offer prasad! I use CH-recommended methods.)

Re: Questions Regarding Offerings

Posted: Sun May 21, 2023 5:09 am
by Johnny Seraph
That is something you'd need to ask the spirit about.

One thing I did once, and this was admittedly for a different class of spirit, was, I kept everything sealed up tight, formally invited the spirit in, and once I was sure they were present, offered to share the energy of the food with him. And as I was consuming it, slowly, meditatively, I was focusing on both the physical sensations, and the spirit's presence.

It was kinda trippy, in a good way. Without going all "Stranger In a Strange Land" here, I think it was appreciated, and it was definitely a unique experience for me.

Definitely ask before you try that, though!

But I do agree that the best "treat" you can ultimately give, is yourself.

Re: Questions Regarding Offerings

Posted: Sun May 21, 2023 5:41 am
by stormdancer
Personally, I am very laid back and low key.

If you tend to burn candles and incense in the same spot, to me that's an altar. And that is where I tend to leave offerings. I've literally taken halloween candy, put it on my "altar", and told everyone to help themselves. Granted it might have been better if I took the candies out of the wrappers. **HINT HINT** ;)

I also have an angel who likes parsley as an offering. I've filled a coffee cup with about a 1/4 cup of dried parsley that has been sitting in the back of the spice cabinet for who knows how long. I put it next to me for a few hours while I was playing around on my computer. I threw it out when he was "stuffed".

Bottom line is that it doesn't really matter where you leave the offering or what you put it in- as long as they know it's for them and from the heart. Just make sure you leave it out for a couple of hours so they can absorb the energy of it. And make sure to take off any wrappers.

Re: Questions Regarding Offerings

Posted: Sun May 21, 2023 10:29 am
by Seita
Hi everyone, thank you so much for your help.

Regarding, asking my spirit companion what she wants, I'm afraid so far I haven't been able to understand her signs. It hasn't even been a week since we've been together and as stated, I'm super new at this.

I've been meditating every day and been speaking to her both verbally and in my mind, but sadly, I haven't been able to understand her. I will say I keep hearing a distinct ringing in my ear all the time now. It comes and goes during random hours.

It's similar to the "nothingness" sound you hear when you're alone in bed at night, but it's much more intense, is this her? Sadly, if it is her, I still haven't been able to understand her signs.

I'm actually considering buying the Dynamite Binding spell for Spirit Communication & Keeping energy. But because it hasn't even been a week, I thought it might be too soon. I can't expect anything too fast. I figure if after a month or so I still don't understand, I should buy that spell to help me

Re: Questions Regarding Offerings

Posted: Sun May 21, 2023 9:08 pm
by stormdancer
Give it time. It's only been a week. If you're new to the paranormal, look online for exercises that you can do to build up your psychic abilities.

Re: Questions Regarding Offerings

Posted: Sun May 21, 2023 10:20 pm
by Seita
stormdancer wrote: Sun May 21, 2023 9:08 pm Give it time. It's only been a week. If you're new to the paranormal, look online for exercises that you can do to build up your psychic abilities.
So far I've been doing exercises on astral projection and lucid dreaming. Are there any other exercises you would recommend? :)