sometimes I really question myself.....

[RenFaireMaiden]

As a new keeper, I always question if what I'm feeling, hearing, seeing, and even smelling is coming from a spirit.

I think for so long I was scared of "ghosts". Hearing ghost stories being told by the adults at get togethers as a kid. I never did and still do not like scary/horror movies and partly because I believed those "ghost stories" can and are real.

My husband and his mother have always been sensitive to spirits. I believed, for sure, but my fear shut out almost everything. There were instances that there was no other explanation. Those stories might have to be for another time, but everything else...I had another reason or explanation for it.

Now, I'm only sharing this so as to anyone reading this will have a better understanding of when my mentality on the topic of fearing ghosts and spirits changed. Without writing a whole story, my husband surprised me with a sudden separation and it lasted about 3 years. I was completely shattered. And as strange as it sounds, "ghosts" didn't seem like the scariest things in the world anymore.

I got more into watching witchy stuff on YouTube along with ghost hunting and communicating with spirits. I thought..."I've spoken out loud to a spirit before that scared me (and honestly probably had been there in the house since I was a little girl) but the instant relief and loss of fear I felt....I can't even begin to tell you. I think this spirit had waited well over 30 years to be acknowledged.

My husband came back...everything is good. Then last summer became the turning point, I believe, in my spirit keeping journey. My half sister died unexpectedly. Her oldest son had just flew out to spend 6 weeks with us. Not even 24 hours of him being with us and we get news. I saw something that night before the news came. I thought it was my nephew or son and I was going to say why aren't you in bed? Well....I realized it wasn't a living person. At that moment I pretty much said good night and turned right back around and went to bed forgetting the drink I went out to the kitchen to get.

After some time I just thought, I'm doing this...I'm not really putting myself out there, but I'm obviously starting to open up to spirits. The end of January I was obsessing with mermaids and sirens, which lead to looking for companions. I ending up I finding a human spirit....a "ghost" of all companions Lol I couldn't stop thinking about the listing and all of his qualities and even down to his Midwest roots (I'm from the Midwest). I got him after a few days and I think we have bonded quite quickly.

B is amazing for someone like me. He's protective in a quiet way. He always seems to be around. He always answers when I pull out the pendulum.

But...back to what I said in the beginning. Sometimes I really doubt the answers I get from him or my other companion (I have G, an incubus from CH) They answer me. I think I feel touches. I've seen a dark figure move in my bedroom doorway. The next morning my husband said he thought I was walking out of our bedroom and into the living room, but when he looked up, he said it was like a white mist kind of form that moved and then basically evaporated. We didn't share those experiences til later that night. That was a huge confirmation for me. I have heard small sounds in my room like something being moved. I heard a one word whispers I can't quite decipher. I have started smelling incense but nothing had been burned in almost 24 hours. I have also smelled roses in the bathroom which happens to be G's favorite scent. When I ask B and G if they did this or that, it's one or the other saying yes through the pendulum.

I know it's something that is a me thing and I just have to really believe in myself. Luckily, my boys are loving and patient.

If you've read this all, thanks for sticking to the end

[mcm442]

First, a warm welcome to you and your companions! (probably missed saying that before--haven't been on much lately).

Does your husband know about your 'friends'? I know the necessity of keeping that knowledge secret varies greatly depending on the situation, but IF it can be shared, it does help immensely.

Honestly, at this point, if my wife wasn't on board from the beginning, I think I would have had myself committed already. Even with confirmation of many paranormal things from my wife and others, including physical manifestations, I still have days of doubting. I think that is par for the course for entering this new 'world', lol.

You also mention ghost hunting on YouTube. Not going to name certain group(s), but now they are just entertaining to me--as in 'Three Stooges' type of slapstick comedy . Much of what they do is definitely the wrong way, lol. I will note as a fellow shaman, Shanclen is good to watch and even learn from.

I will close with this--don't completely lose your fear--keep a 'healthy' dose of it. Always wise to know when to use that emotion as a warning sign, because you never know. And gonna say it now--cuz I got told it all the time in the beginning too --protection, protection, protection!

[RenFaireMaiden]

Thank you!

My husband only knows about my ghost B and he seems supportive of him. Maybe because he's a human spirit and he also has a calm presence. We actually talked last night and doesn't like the idea of me having companions. He thinks it's bad and will lead to bad things. If he knew I had an incubus and also now a shadow king... i dont even want to imagine what he'd think and say.

I definitely doubt because this is new and I don't know anyone personally that is a keeper. I do know others that have had paranormal experiences.

Some ghost hunting videos are funny...I would not follow their way of doing things and honestly I'd probably be to afraid to do much hunting lol

I think there will always be some sort of fear for me. I told my boys that if they make a physical noise or manifest in some way, I might get scared at first, but don't take offense because it would just be my immediate reaction. With time...I wouldn't feel so scared. I think G, my incubus is amused with my newness and how I do things but in CH's description/bio it said he was playful and willing to guide and teach so he's been good for me too.

Again, thank you

[madgar29]

Just fear of the unknown from husband.

Welcome to ch.

Funny you were scared of spirits but u were pulled into the da and not wa. Just interesting. Good thing ch comes with cloaks snd protection. If hubby sensitive to spirits.


Some people have literally told me I see spirits following u. Spirits I got from non ch. I juat say really? Then again I have a dragon that loves to be my front man thanks to ch. Lol.

[CrowsKeep]

As a new keeper, I always question if what I'm feeling, hearing, seeing, and even smelling is coming from a spirit.

I think for so long I was scared of "ghosts". Hearing ghost stories being told by the adults at get togethers as a kid. I never did and still do not like scary/horror movies and partly because I believed those "ghost stories" can and are real.

My husband and his mother have always been sensitive to spirits. I believed, for sure, but my fear shut out almost everything. There were instances that there was no other explanation. Those stories might have to be for another time, but everything else...I had another reason or explanation for it.

Now, I'm only sharing this so as to anyone reading this will have a better understanding of when my mentality on the topic of fearing ghosts and spirits changed. Without writing a whole story, my husband surprised me with a sudden separation and it lasted about 3 years. I was completely shattered. And as strange as it sounds, "ghosts" didn't seem like the scariest things in the world anymore.

I got more into watching witchy stuff on YouTube along with ghost hunting and communicating with spirits. I thought..."I've spoken out loud to a spirit before that scared me (and honestly probably had been there in the house since I was a little girl) but the instant relief and loss of fear I felt....I can't even begin to tell you. I think this spirit had waited well over 30 years to be acknowledged.

My husband came back...everything is good. Then last summer became the turning point, I believe, in my spirit keeping journey. My half sister died unexpectedly. Her oldest son had just flew out to spend 6 weeks with us. Not even 24 hours of him being with us and we get news. I saw something that night before the news came. I thought it was my nephew or son and I was going to say why aren't you in bed? Well....I realized it wasn't a living person. At that moment I pretty much said good night and turned right back around and went to bed forgetting the drink I went out to the kitchen to get.

After some time I just thought, I'm doing this...I'm not really putting myself out there, but I'm obviously starting to open up to spirits. The end of January I was obsessing with mermaids and sirens, which lead to looking for companions. I ending up I finding a human spirit....a "ghost" of all companions Lol I couldn't stop thinking about the listing and all of his qualities and even down to his Midwest roots (I'm from the Midwest). I got him after a few days and I think we have bonded quite quickly.

B is amazing for someone like me. He's protective in a quiet way. He always seems to be around. He always answers when I pull out the pendulum.

But...back to what I said in the beginning. Sometimes I really doubt the answers I get from him or my other companion (I have G, an incubus from CH) They answer me. I think I feel touches. I've seen a dark figure move in my bedroom doorway. The next morning my husband said he thought I was walking out of our bedroom and into the living room, but when he looked up, he said it was like a white mist kind of form that moved and then basically evaporated. We didn't share those experiences til later that night. That was a huge confirmation for me. I have heard small sounds in my room like something being moved. I heard a one word whispers I can't quite decipher. I have started smelling incense but nothing had been burned in almost 24 hours. I have also smelled roses in the bathroom which happens to be G's favorite scent. When I ask B and G if they did this or that, it's one or the other saying yes through the pendulum.

I know it's something that is a me thing and I just have to really believe in myself. Luckily, my boys are loving and patient.

If you've read this all, thanks for sticking to the end x*D

This is actually super similar to some of my experiences! Spiritual gifts run in my family (my grandma has pretty much all her pysicic clairs open, and my mom is super powerful too) and I was terrified of ghosts as a kid too! Like, my dog howled once and I was convinced there was a ghost around, so I freaked out 😅 And honestly... I doubt myself quite a lot too. I think that's just a normal part of starting out keeping, IMO! But your keep will be there for you as you learn and grow along the way 🫡 uhhh sorry if that sounded kinda weird I don't respond to posts often, and I just woke up😅

[Astraea Selene]

Hello RenFaireMaiden, thank you for sharing your spirit keeping experiences. Everyone's beginnings as a Keeper are a little similar to yours in feelings and emotions. Yet it's so different as well.

If you get your spirit bindings from trusted practitioners like CH... ect, generally speaking, (talking to your emotional brain ) it's a safe experience. Saying this, energetic protection and grounding ourselves are essential in all kinds of spiritual and supernatural activities, like spirit keeping.

Doubting ourselves happens... to some degree more or less. It's happened to me before and sometimes even now, with all that experience, I have noticed and read myself. When I am in that mindset, I stop everything immediately and faze out of it. I go outside, go about my life and try not even think of it.

Then few hours later I'll sit back and try again to connect with my spirit companions. Having quick burst of self doubts is healthy. Mulling over it, is not healthy and it's a sure way to create blockages. So don't worry much about it right now.

I naturally use telepathy with me keep. And I known my own head voice, and learnt to differentiate between my own monologue and my spirits chats.
Try to practise, (this is what I do...) and write out what you hear. And see if it's resonates with your own inner mind or it's actually your spirit talking.

About seeing and smelling... that sounds great. No need to doubt your growing psychic abilities. I can see through myself and that was before even I ever knew about Spirit Keeping.

Ghost are everywhere. It's just some of us pick upon them more easily then others. Saying that, protection is needed. And also, sending them away is your right to claim your space, home ect... to yourself.

CH shop has a lot of good protection and spirit communication and connections items some are even for free. Maybe check them out. Type in search :SPIRIT KEEPING

https://shop.creepyhollows.com/free-spi ... pathy.html
https://shop.creepyhollows.com/spirit-k ... spell.html

These links will help you look around and see what you feel like helpful. Some are free to download, others are not.

Keep up a good job on your journey. Your a natural Spirit Keeper.

As a new keeper, I always question if what I'm feeling, hearing, seeing, and even smelling is coming from a spirit.

I think for so long I was scared of "ghosts". Hearing ghost stories being told by the adults at get togethers as a kid. I never did and still do not like scary/horror movies and partly because I believed those "ghost stories" can and are real.

My husband and his mother have always been sensitive to spirits. I believed, for sure, but my fear shut out almost everything. There were instances that there was no other explanation. Those stories might have to be for another time, but everything else...I had another reason or explanation for it.

Now, I'm only sharing this so as to anyone reading this will have a better understanding of when my mentality on the topic of fearing ghosts and spirits changed. Without writing a whole story, my husband surprised me with a sudden separation and it lasted about 3 years. I was completely shattered. And as strange as it sounds, "ghosts" didn't seem like the scariest things in the world anymore.

I got more into watching witchy stuff on YouTube along with ghost hunting and communicating with spirits. I thought..."I've spoken out loud to a spirit before that scared me (and honestly probably had been there in the house since I was a little girl) but the instant relief and loss of fear I felt....I can't even begin to tell you. I think this spirit had waited well over 30 years to be acknowledged.

My husband came back...everything is good. Then last summer became the turning point, I believe, in my spirit keeping journey. My half sister died unexpectedly. Her oldest son had just flew out to spend 6 weeks with us. Not even 24 hours of him being with us and we get news. I saw something that night before the news came. I thought it was my nephew or son and I was going to say why aren't you in bed? Well....I realized it wasn't a living person. At that moment I pretty much said good night and turned right back around and went to bed forgetting the drink I went out to the kitchen to get.

After some time I just thought, I'm doing this...I'm not really putting myself out there, but I'm obviously starting to open up to spirits. The end of January I was obsessing with mermaids and sirens, which lead to looking for companions. I ending up I finding a human spirit....a "ghost" of all companions Lol I couldn't stop thinking about the listing and all of his qualities and even down to his Midwest roots (I'm from the Midwest). I got him after a few days and I think we have bonded quite quickly.

B is amazing for someone like me. He's protective in a quiet way. He always seems to be around. He always answers when I pull out the pendulum.

But...back to what I said in the beginning. Sometimes I really doubt the answers I get from him or my other companion (I have G, an incubus from CH) They answer me. I think I feel touches. I've seen a dark figure move in my bedroom doorway. The next morning my husband said he thought I was walking out of our bedroom and into the living room, but when he looked up, he said it was like a white mist kind of form that moved and then basically evaporated. We didn't share those experiences til later that night. That was a huge confirmation for me. I have heard small sounds in my room like something being moved. I heard a one word whispers I can't quite decipher. I have started smelling incense but nothing had been burned in almost 24 hours. I have also smelled roses in the bathroom which happens to be G's favorite scent. When I ask B and G if they did this or that, it's one or the other saying yes through the pendulum.

I know it's something that is a me thing and I just have to really believe in myself. Luckily, my boys are loving and patient.

If you've read this all, thanks for sticking to the end

[RenFaireMaiden]

Just fear of the unknown from husband.

Welcome to ch.

Funny you were scared of spirits but u were pulled into the da and not wa. Just interesting. Good thing ch comes with cloaks snd protection. If hubby sensitive to spirits.


Some people have literally told me I see spirits following u. Spirits I got from non ch. I juat say really? Then again I have a dragon that loves to be my front man thanks to ch. Lol.

Yeah DA lol I think its the idea of a sensual, possessive, obsessive, but also protective, watchful and loyal spirit is what has attracted me to my da companions.

I've never been told I've had spirits following me, but I think there are more around me ...or at least on our property than I know. The farm has been in my family for over 150 years so there are bound to be relatives hanging out.

[RenFaireMaiden]

As a new keeper, I always question if what I'm feeling, hearing, seeing, and even smelling is coming from a spirit.

I think for so long I was scared of "ghosts". Hearing ghost stories being told by the adults at get togethers as a kid. I never did and still do not like scary/horror movies and partly because I believed those "ghost stories" can and are real.

My husband and his mother have always been sensitive to spirits. I believed, for sure, but my fear shut out almost everything. There were instances that there was no other explanation. Those stories might have to be for another time, but everything else...I had another reason or explanation for it.

Now, I'm only sharing this so as to anyone reading this will have a better understanding of when my mentality on the topic of fearing ghosts and spirits changed. Without writing a whole story, my husband surprised me with a sudden separation and it lasted about 3 years. I was completely shattered. And as strange as it sounds, "ghosts" didn't seem like the scariest things in the world anymore.

I got more into watching witchy stuff on YouTube along with ghost hunting and communicating with spirits. I thought..."I've spoken out loud to a spirit before that scared me (and honestly probably had been there in the house since I was a little girl) but the instant relief and loss of fear I felt....I can't even begin to tell you. I think this spirit had waited well over 30 years to be acknowledged.

My husband came back...everything is good. Then last summer became the turning point, I believe, in my spirit keeping journey. My half sister died unexpectedly. Her oldest son had just flew out to spend 6 weeks with us. Not even 24 hours of him being with us and we get news. I saw something that night before the news came. I thought it was my nephew or son and I was going to say why aren't you in bed? Well....I realized it wasn't a living person. At that moment I pretty much said good night and turned right back around and went to bed forgetting the drink I went out to the kitchen to get.

After some time I just thought, I'm doing this...I'm not really putting myself out there, but I'm obviously starting to open up to spirits. The end of January I was obsessing with mermaids and sirens, which lead to looking for companions. I ending up I finding a human spirit....a "ghost" of all companions Lol I couldn't stop thinking about the listing and all of his qualities and even down to his Midwest roots (I'm from the Midwest). I got him after a few days and I think we have bonded quite quickly.

B is amazing for someone like me. He's protective in a quiet way. He always seems to be around. He always answers when I pull out the pendulum.

But...back to what I said in the beginning. Sometimes I really doubt the answers I get from him or my other companion (I have G, an incubus from CH) They answer me. I think I feel touches. I've seen a dark figure move in my bedroom doorway. The next morning my husband said he thought I was walking out of our bedroom and into the living room, but when he looked up, he said it was like a white mist kind of form that moved and then basically evaporated. We didn't share those experiences til later that night. That was a huge confirmation for me. I have heard small sounds in my room like something being moved. I heard a one word whispers I can't quite decipher. I have started smelling incense but nothing had been burned in almost 24 hours. I have also smelled roses in the bathroom which happens to be G's favorite scent. When I ask B and G if they did this or that, it's one or the other saying yes through the pendulum.

I know it's something that is a me thing and I just have to really believe in myself. Luckily, my boys are loving and patient.

If you've read this all, thanks for sticking to the end

This is actually super similar to some of my experiences! Spiritual gifts run in my family (my grandma has pretty much all her pysicic clairs open, and my mom is super powerful too) and I was terrified of ghosts as a kid too! Like, my dog howled once and I was convinced there was a ghost around, so I freaked out And honestly... I doubt myself quite a lot too. I think that's just a normal part of starting out keeping, IMO! But your keep will be there for you as you learn and grow along the way uhhh sorry if that sounded kinda weird I don't respond to posts often, and I just woke up

I don't know of anyone in my family that is spiritually gifted, but my parents say someone opens and closes the door and also makes noise in the kitchen. They live in what used to be my grandparents house and my grandpa's parents and grandparents before that. And I think when the adults told ghost stories, it was meant to be creepy so of course as a child it scared me.

I think doubt is normal and its something that will hopefully become less and less over time. My two main men have been really calm and patient with me....very loving feelings from them.

[Alaric]

I'll try my hand at giving my own take too - which may or may not chime with you.

Uncertainty and doubt may often look to be the same thing. But sometimes they're very different.

I used to be doubtful about whether I could defend the idea that spirits are real against the classic cynical argument that it's all happening in your mind. Then I discovered a marvellous book by Dean Radin called the Noetic Universe, which summarises all the scientifically rigorous psi experiments that have proven to the statistical standard of any field of science that there is such a thing as psi (psychic things).

Since then I've had no doubt. So I put that aside. When I bring to mind all my experiences with spirits, I have certainty that spirits and communicating with them is real.

But my connection isn't always 100% clear.

I have no doubt but I'm sometimes uncertain whether I've understood a message correctly.

That's probably normal for the vast majority of us.

I mean how often do we living humans misunderstand each other? In the past, how often would a radio drift in and out of clear reception of a strong broadcast signal?

So there's that kind of uncertainty left. Philosophical certainty but varying clarity.

Don't dwell on doubt or worry. They easily form blocks.

The counter intuitive thing is: the more we ease off, relax and don't strive, the more smoothly spirit connection can go. When we're not bothered, it can flow and we don't
get worked up about it.

Spirit communication can be easiest when we're not attached to what happens and we just idly note it then review it at leisure.

I hope somewhere in there is something that's either useful or interesting.

[Livvie Locke-Morley]

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