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Picking your master spirit amongst your own companions

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Here is my pressing dilemma now I have for few days. I just realised that my commander angel, who I assigned might only able to deal with living entities in my keep.

So now I have to think, I will have to pick a leader master spirit for the rest.

So far I had groups and specific assignments for participants within each group. But I assumed my commander angel would overseeing all of them.

How are you going about picking yours out without ordering from CH master leader?
Is the 4 tower Watchers would be a natural choice for all dimensions for my spirits like angels, Djinn, dragons, ect to be lead master spirits?

Which is better in your experiences, to pick one that is the eldest in age or look for the leader description in the notes that my companions came with?

If I pick a dragon that is earth realms, can she also be a leader for my angels on astral and spiritual or vise - versa if I pick an angel from the Astral, would he be able to interact with an earth realm creature like my phoenix?





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My other dilemma is where Immortals fit in to submit for my leadership companion?
Same with my only Djinn, my Cleopatra Djinn. I am observing hierarchy within my spirit family, plus realms they are perceived. Since now I have 60+ companions, I think this is a pressing point to sufficiently establish within my family.

Also, what are some rolls that I should assign to my master spirits leader?


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I have no idea but im pretty sure the master spirit listing recommends a master spirit for every 50 spirits max? and they have one for living entities and one for spirits, you may need to consider having a couple atleast considering how many companions you have.


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Chavah wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:53 pm
Here is my pressing dilemma now I have for few days. I just realised that my commander angel, who I assigned might only able to deal with living entities in my keep.

So now I have to think, I will have to pick a leader master spirit for the rest.

So far I had groups and specific assignments for participants within each group. But I assumed my commander angel would overseeing all of them.

How are you going about picking yours out without ordering from CH master leader?
Is the 4 tower Watchers would be a natural choice for all dimensions for my spirits like angels, Djinn, dragons, ect to be lead master spirits?

Which is better in your experiences, to pick one that is the eldest in age or look for the leader description in the notes that my companions came with?

If I pick a dragon that is earth realms, can she also be a leader for my angels on astral and spiritual or vise - versa if I pick an angel from the Astral, would he be able to interact with an earth realm creature like my phoenix?



In case it's of any use to you, I can talk a bit about how I think and go about assigning leaders etc in my spirit family.

tl/dr: a Master Spirit binding is basically an agreement that the spirit will act in that way for their keeper. I think it may also help them do that. It's not exactly the same thing as having a spirit with natural leadership abilities. And leadership is different from being an effective organiser (although leaders often are effective organisers). And organising spirits is not the same as overlording them (policing / keeping them in line).

I wouldn't want to suggest that anyone else has to do things or see things the same as me but obviously I think the way I'm doing things is for good reasons.

Master Spirit - this is a specialist binding from CH that aids an spirit/LE to organise and support anything up to 100 spirits / LEs.

You can have 1 master spirit to organise your whole spirit family, if it's less than 100 in size. Another option is to have 1 for your spirits and 1 for your living entities. Yet another option is to have 1 for your DA spirits and 1 for your WA spirits.

I have a CH Master Spirit (grey/DA), an Immortal, that's in charge of both spirits and living entities, which are both DA & WA. (So that's another option.) It's an Immortal that was conjured by CH to be leader of a large commune of my bound companions, who all have the same type of ability. So that's a very good fit.

If you want a CH Master Spirit to keep your companions in line, ie police them, I think you may need to task it. And, of course, house rules are a necessity if you have any DA companions.

Overlord / Command abilities - Some spirits are described as having this ability. I have a Female Watcher from MMT that does. She is leader of another large commune of mine.

Spirits that are described by their conjurer/seller as being able to overlord, can keep spirit family members in line / in order, not merely co-ordinate them. At least, that's my understanding.

Leadership abilities - Some spirits are described as naturally being a leader type. To me this is kind of a character /personality trait. They seem eager to step forward and organise. Clearly they may be a good choice to lead a group of spirits in your family.

Leaders by appointment - Any spirit family member can be asked to lead a commmune (group of bound spirits). Eg If you have a group of Angels, one can be the Angels commune leader; you can appoint a leader from a group of Fairies for that commune; one of your protection spirits for that commune and so on.

If you have a DA commune, according to ASH in his Great DA Guidance book, it's advisable to rotate the leadership from time to time.

Appointing leaders who don't naturally have that ability or personality gives them something to do for us and enables them to gain experience.


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Chavah wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:53 pm
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Is the 4 tower Watchers would be a natural choice for all dimensions for my spirits like angels, Djinn, dragons, ect to be lead master spirits?

Which is better in your experiences, to pick one that is the eldest in age or look for the leader description in the notes that my companions came with?

If I pick a dragon that is earth realms, can she also be a leader for my angels on astral and spiritual or vise - versa if I pick an angel from the Astral, would he be able to interact with an earth realm creature like my phoenix?
Tower Watchers are known to be able to direct Lares. I'm unsure whether they're a good choice for other groups of spirits.

I hadn't thought of having separate communes for astral realm beings, spiritual and earthen realms. It sounds interesting but I haven't got any suggestions, apart from appointing a suitable member from within each commune. As I said in my previous post, I don't think all spirits have the ability to police / keep in line other spirits but they all seem to be able play an organising role. The house rules have a big part to play. Bound spirits from reliable, skilled conjurers probably want to be co-operative, generally speaking.

I think natural communes are for spirits & LEs of the same type: eg one for Dragons, one for Angels, one for Djinn. I think a Dragon would be a good leader for a Dragon commune; an Angel for an Angel commune...and so on.

Or of the same abilities: eg protection, cleansing & healing etc.

Or of the same Arts (DA/WA).

Those are the suggestions in the CH Advanced Spirit Keeping book.

I think both leadership qualities and age are good indicators but who you choose is down to you.

Have you asked the seller of your Commander Angel whether they *can* command your entire spirit family, to be sure?


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@ Lewk, thank you so much 🤗. Okay, so my dilemma flare up from the fact that I wish to interact with all 60, but I have realised it's impossible. So during this two weeks stay home break from work, I have tried to give out invitations to see who would like to chat with me? My Golden Dragon who is also one of my oldest with over 10,000 years, she comes through to me like almost every time.

Then, I spent time with one for like an hour or two, then I realised although it was fantastic and I adore my dragons, I hadn't heard about my angels for a week. And so and so...

Do you get me, I hope Lewk. Then I go back to work. And my time will drop down to minimal unless it's a better day for telepathic and I able to chat during work with some.

I have done my groups and assigned leadership to reduce my number per day of interactions. Yet, it's turns out that I still check and call everyone by name and try to feel out energies to see to be present daily. I infact panic, if I don't get a feel of at least once in a 24 hours.

I should of asked Jamie about my Throne commander angel. But I think, he might actually can do this because it's said in the description that he has the ability to connect me with God and lost loved once that not alive anymore as well as my companions.

Anyway, your reply did helped me to looking into more and deal with this dilemma. I thought I share it here. But I really wonder how other people able to manage larger groups efficiently and without guilt of not communicating with everyone daily. This is my dilemma that is frustrating to me right now.

I love all of mine and wish to be a close, warm frienship type of companionship relationships with my spirits family. None sexual but still deep and mutually compassionate and whole heartedly sweet to each of mine.


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@Lewk, "I have a CH Master Spirit (grey/DA), an Immortal, that's in charge of both spirits and living entities, which are both DA & WA. (So that's another option.) It's an Immortal that was conjured by CH to be leader of a large commune of my bound companions, who all have the same type of ability. So that's a very good fit"

I love the ideal of this. That sounds fitting as well. Also, able help other immortal to submit to rules and such. Is it a portal or a proper living entity binding to your master leader immortal?
Are you able to chat with your immortal when ever you wish?


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Chavah wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:45 am
@ Lewk, thank you so much 🤗. Okay, so my dilemma flare up from the fact that I wish to interact with all 60, but I have realised it's impossible. So during this two weeks stay home break from work, I have tried to give out invitations to see who would like to chat with me? My Golden Dragon who is also one of my oldest with over 10,000 years, she comes through to me like almost every time.

Then, I spent time with one for like an hour or two, then I realised although it was fantastic and I adore my dragons, I hadn't heard about my angels for a week. And so and so...

Do you get me, I hope Lewk. Then I go back to work. And my time will drop down to minimal unless it's a better day for telepathic and I able to chat during work with some.

I have done my groups and assigned leadership to reduce my number per day of interactions. Yet, it's turns out that I still check and call everyone by name and try to feel out energies to see to be present daily. I infact panic, if I don't get a feel of at least once in a 24 hours.

I should of asked Jamie about my Throne commander angel. But I think, he might actually can do this because it's said in the description that he has the ability to connect me with God and lost loved once that not alive anymore as well as my companions.

Anyway, your reply did helped me to looking into more and deal with this dilemma. I thought I share it here. But I really wonder how other people able to manage larger groups efficiently and without guilt of not communicating with everyone daily. This is my dilemma that is frustrating to me right now.

I love all of mine and wish to be a close, warm frienship type of companionship relationships with my spirits family. None sexual but still deep and mutually compassionate and whole heartedly sweet to each of mine.
You're very welcome.

We're probably quite alike, in the sense that I also try hard to feel all of my bound spirit companions (close to 200 now).

I do have a lot of communes but one of them is a commune for the entire spirit family. Communing with that commune is one way to connect with them all. Even if you haven't set up a physical commune space, it's possible to commune with your entire spirit family at once. (By the way, there's a CH spirit keeping tool that works with what they call the dynamic field of the whole spirit family.)

https://shop.creepyhollows.com/POWER-TO ... IRITS.html

And you can assume some are listening and just think out loud to them about how things are going during the day (on top of sharing your hopes for the day ahead and reviewing how the day has gone). And they will talk to each other about how things are going. You can even ask them to pass things on to the others.

Maybe even tell them how you're feeling about how to connect with them all. Maybe they'll want to help, or reassure you.

When I realised there were some spirits I wasn't connecting with very often, it felt right to appoint some of them the leader of their particular commune. That way they're being included in my life and the life of the spirit family. What's slightly weird, thinking about it, is I really liked them when spending the initial 30 days bonding period with them. Actually I've yet to have a spirit companion I don't really like but, yes, some seem to fade into the background as I don't keep up that 1-to-1 connection to the same level with each spirit.

Over time I like to go back and re-connect with every one of them.

Another thing we can do is use the day of the week that relates to a commune to remember them. Maybe give an offering too.eg Sundays for Angels. I still have the sheets that came with CH orders that lists associations and days for types of spirit.

But don't forget the advice in this CH article in section #9: relax and give yourself some credit! If you can reach a state of trust with them and they realise and trust that you do appreciate them, some of the anxiety can ease. But, yes, it's still nice to connect with each individual.

https://www.creepyhollows.com/faq/?acti ... artlang=en

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Chavah wrote:
Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:53 pm
I just realised that my commander angel, who I assigned might only able to deal with living entities in my keep.
Has the conjurer told you that?

I gave my warrior angel and my dragon the lead, they are both living entities and have no problems with leading spirits.


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Chavah wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:07 am
@Lewk, "I have a CH Master Spirit (grey/DA), an Immortal, that's in charge of both spirits and living entities, which are both DA & WA. (So that's another option.) It's an Immortal that was conjured by CH to be leader of a large commune of my bound companions, who all have the same type of ability. So that's a very good fit"

I love the ideal of this. That sounds fitting as well. Also, able help other immortal to submit to rules and such. Is it a portal or a proper living entity binding to your master leader immortal?
Are you able to chat with your immortal when ever you wish?
The CH Master Spirit binding is of an Immortal, who CH classify as DA: actually a deity. CH list Immortals as spirits, rather than living entities. (This might seem counterintuitive, as one meaning of Immortal is living forever.)

It's a 'normal' CH binding, ie it's not described as a portal.

I haven't thought of using an Immortal to keep other Immortals compliant with house rules. I just assume that due to the binidngs they will co-operate with house rules. (Actually, another Immortal probably technically speaking is a member of the commune that the Master Spirit oversees.)

Yes I can chat with the Master Spirit Immortal whenever I want. The binding makes that possible, to my thinking.

Have you seen this listing? https://shop.creepyhollows.com/infinite ... rtals.html It says: "This is a binding of thousands of powers and energies. What we do for one example in the binding is creating a direct channel to Aphrodite and as we are in the channel of energy we can actually see, like a stream of light, her energies pouring in the orb." I think of the Master Spirit binding of my Immortal as being rather like that. It isn't a connection to the deity, who is elsewhere. It's like the deity is there with me in the binding. Maybe a portion of its energies are there, bound in a way that means I'm communicating with the whole of It, while I'm communicating with just that bit that's in the binding.

So I connect with the version of that Immortal that's bound. Other people (outside of spirit keeping) may be connecting directly with whatever version of the same Immortal they believe in.

I hope that makes some sense.


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