Spirit Keeping & Paranormal Collecting Forum

Good weekend everyone, I've got a question about spirit/entity tasking when it comes to astral projection.

In addition to astral angel, amarok and a number of other spirit friends, who specialise in the astral matters, I happen to have astral entities as well as an alpha (astral strider) from Kelis.

Although all of them have been asked/tasked to help me exit successfully numerous times, I have not been able to AP with their help yet.

How to task them in order to succeed? Shall I do it over and over again? I have had master services on AP through CH as well and got several spells to aid in this but still no AP that I manage to achieve and remember that I achieved it.

My connection with the astral is poorer than with the spiritual for some unknown reasons, it has been like this for years.

Any insight? Maybe getting another spirit or living entity would help? I am not desperate but would like to increase my chances at controlled APs that I do remember afterwards.

Thank you and have a good weekend, guys!

I would like to know too. I have been tasking them on and off for as long as I have been keeping spirits with no results. And I keep getting told all the time how I have such strong and amazing connection to astral and all that. It's a mystery to me.

What methods are you practicing to improve / attempt successful AP (as in what exercises or methods) and what do you feel is causing the projection to fail? Are you getting to a certain point and it doesn't seem to work? What do things feel like at that point for you, energetically speaking?

I'm no expert and cannot AP myself, but I've researched the topic and experienced spontaneous AP in the past so I am pretty confident of my knowledge of the mechanics and dynamics in combination with those spontaneous experiences. I actually haven't been trying to pursue this lately for other reasons.

Generally, my knowledge comes from Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce combined with other random reading on this forum and other internet sources. I may be able to provide some pointers I've read from those sources depending on what your experience was and how I can relate it to the material and my limited experience.

A CH reading said my gift was Plane Walking so I do feel I'm somewhat intuitive about this subject too. That said, you can feel free to say thanks, but no thanks. I won't be offended since I wouldn't blame you for not seeing me as someone who can provide full advice on the subject.

2hp

Basically, all those questions are due to my thoughts that there is only so much spirits can do to assist us with the actual projection, as that is a skill / ability that we have to learn and exercise and master in itself.

Instead of asking them to help do the action, perhaps ask them to share their knowledge of techniques or the like for you to practice, providing you can communicate with your spirits effectively.

Apologies if this isn't of any use.

I have astral traveled successfully both without and with bound spirits or servitor guardians. So...

It came into my mind to say just relax and try to get into a semi trance relaxed state and try your astral projection technique yourself, making a note of anything when you come back. (Doing all necessary protections beforehand and being sure of protection while out there.)

Doing it with no expectation of impressive results might help.

After trying that a few times, try doing the same after having asked one of your spirits who are supposed to be able to help with astral travel to come with you and give them permission to help you. Again make notes of anything, no matter how insignificant it feels. Then compare the two sets of notes. You might notice there is a difference that the spirit is making. To have them protect you while in the astral, if they have that ability, would be a great asset.

Once you've compared notes, perhaps then try asking them to help you get out of your body at the start of your journey. It will be easier for them (I'd say) if you have learned a reliable method for doing that and have done it repeatedly so it isn't strange to you. Again take detailed notes.

I have servitors that are listed as having the ability to drag people out of their bodies or help with astral projection but they are also loyal to and caring for their keeper. Maybe spirits with these abilities don't want to give us a frightening experience and / or they need us to be somewhat ready for astral travel ourselves too.

One of the easy things that I have liked to do is just rolling out of my body, within my circle of protection, adjusting my appearance and looking at my physical self. Sometimes I will smooth out my etheric body or kind of give myself healing touches. That too is astral travelling, even though at that point you haven't gone very far.

Do you try to astral travel at the level that is adjacent to / corresponds with this world? Or are you aiming for specific levels of the astral, or specific destinations in the non-earth levels?

Do you have a particular system that you have studied and followed?

I learned the method taught by Deanna Conway in her books. I now look back on those early astral
excursions of mine with the benefit of hindsight gained since and realise that a lot more was going on in them than I might have given myself credit for. I found travelling in the level that corresponds to where we are less interesting than going to other ('higher') levels. By following the tried and tested method of a respected author I was expecting good results and got them. But I was second guessing it a lot at the time. It's only later that I've realised how genuine what I experienced was.

I suppose I could have experimented with bit of diy travelling but I decided learning the full method and trying it got me results.

It's easy for me to give advice and suggestions...but I don't know how much use this could be to you.

I realise my post just now may fall into the category of teaching your grandmother to suck eggs or stating the abundantly obvious. If so, again I apologise.

Lewk wrote:I realise my post just now may fall into the category of teaching your grandmother to suck eggs or stating the abundantly obvious. If so, again I apologise.

I feel like I do that in a lot of my posts... 2ded

LOL Hagrid...

Regholdain wrote:What methods are you practicing to improve / attempt successful AP (as in what exercises or methods) and what do you feel is causing the projection to fail? Are you getting to a certain point and it doesn't seem to work? What do things feel like at that point for you, energetically speaking?

I'm no expert and cannot AP myself, but I've researched the topic and experienced spontaneous AP in the past so I am pretty confident of my knowledge of the mechanics and dynamics in combination with those spontaneous experiences. I actually haven't been trying to pursue this lately for other reasons.

Generally, my knowledge comes from Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce combined with other random reading on this forum and other internet sources. I may be able to provide some pointers I've read from those sources depending on what your experience was and how I can relate it to the material and my limited experience.

A CH reading said my gift was Plane Walking so I do feel I'm somewhat intuitive about this subject too. That said, you can feel free to say thanks, but no thanks. I won't be offended since I wouldn't blame you for not seeing me as someone who can provide full advice on the subject.

2hp

Hi there and thanks for sharing your thoughts. You see I've been trying total relaxation, pulling myself up (the rope technique) or rolling out. The latest technique I tried is an audio file/hypnosis thing.

You see, I can't even see my astral strider (I wrote it was an alpha, but it's wrong, she's a beta) when I see other things, places, people and spirits. I can view quite well but NOT astral entities or constructs. I've been giving her prompts, I just cannot see her or feel her, that's it.

I posted on the Ap Facebook group asking how they do it. One person replied that she exits through her third eye chakra. Is that so? That was very new to me? How come I can travel mentally using my third eye but not astrally using it? I underwent full psychic upgrade (by kelis) and he removed blockages too, installed betas at my chakras to prevent formation of the new ones. However I'm still not separating from the physical body.

I did controlled Ap twice before. The rest of interactions I've managed to get are mental viewings, without ditaching from the physical body.