mcm442 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 1:30 pm
I feel I must side with Madgar29 on this on. The burns we suffer on our physical bodies are due to extreme differences in energy (thermal)--and they can come from hot and
cold. Our astral bodies are coherent forms of energy that can exist in many levels--including the highest. IF there is a chance of being exposed to a level difference that could potentially harm us, we should easily be able to match it, thereby negating any effects.
The place I tentatively call Tartarus has some 'hellish' environments in it, that can be quite uncomfortable until adapted to. Also, my brief experiences with Andromeda and traveling straight into nebulous regions, surely exposed me to ionized gases that can exceed 20,000 degrees Fahrenheit--far beyond mere volcanic magma, is used to support my opinion on this. (In hindsight, holy shiznit, I kinda wish I hadn't googled that!)
Something that
can harm us are what I call 'the feeders', and if what Madgar29 says is true about many apocalyptic wars being fought in eons past, there will be many there as a result. Anything that can hold you and drain you is a serious issue. 'Supposedly' if they drain you to zero, the existence of your mortal body will allow your astral to recover over time. The gist I get from multiple sources say it can be painful, but surviving an astral death can be recovered from--as long as you maintain a physical form. If you don't, then experiencing the 'second death' has no return.
I will also state that being restrained by certain entities DOES HAVE ADVERSE EFFECTS ON THE PHYSICAL BODY. THIS I DO have experience with. THIS WARNING IS VALID!
I'd venture that such a trip would be similar to dropping down into the lowest vibrational realms--that's just asking for major trouble. Yes, defenses can be made--but they better be the 'nuclear deterrent' versions!
Exposure to harsh environments and being affected by their elements represent two different things in astral travel.
If you find yourself encountering harsh environments, such as exposure to ionized gases or exploring an astral volcano, you have the ability to adapt your energy to suit these conditions. In the astral plane, mere sensations like feeling cold won't influence your physical body. The difference in energy is substantial, yet your spirits and entities can modify your energy to assist you in managing such challenging settings, or you can take initiative and do so yourself.
Being influenced by the elements is a different story. For example, in your case, if ionized gases were to ignite and cause an explosion near your astral body’s torso, the impact would be felt in the physical world, leading to intense pain and a visit to the hospital. Most likely, this would leave the ER doctor puzzled about the cause. Like you mentioned, being restrained by certain entities can have effects on your physical body because it isn't about you adapting to the energy of the environment. Instead, you are influenced by the entity, an element that is connected to the plane.
Just as I warned the others, if you happen to be unlucky enough to be hit by the lava (which is a real risk due to the active volcano), the effects will be immediate. In this case, the burns are not caused by a difference in energy exposure from the environment, as previously explained. Instead, the burns impact you and your physical body because your three bodies are interconnected. That's the key difference. And that is why the sensation of being restrained in a different plane is felt in the same spot on the physical body, rather than in the reproductive organs, for example. Heh.
Feeders do exist and can pose a threat to you as well, I agree. They reside on the astral plane as their own races, rather than being created by past "wars" among humans. I obviously reject the idea of "apocalyptic wars" between humans and other astral plane species "in the past." Furthermore, feeders are not the sole entities present; there are others who could exploit the situation.
We are only just beginning to scratch the surface of Mars, according to the information provided by NASA. Even if we humor the existence of these "wars," let's be real here: how many of us in the forum can engage in astral travel without the aid of entities and spirits?
You can answer that question personally because you know how much our entities and spirits help in that regard. Plus, your spirit family won't let you join any war, as it's not their purpose to be bound to you for that. This isn't high school, where someone says something one doesn't like and suddenly it's war! How many shamans, witches, or warlords from different parts of the world in the past were able to connect with each other on the astral plane to participate in "wars"?
Even if such a thing existed, the number would likely be small enough to count on your fingers, with members knowing each other and possibly belonging to the same coven. The idea of an outrageous number of "dead humans died on Mars" being mentioned seems far-fetched. In reality, humans have not yet set foot on Mars. Lol. However, astral travel allows us to explore this place. Yet, the number of individuals who can do so is limited. And if any "war" between humans and entities had occurred, it would surely be common knowledge. You can always corroborate the information with older entities, spirits, or even immortals. I am confident that something of that magnitude will be thoroughly documented. Unfortunately, the "wars" were nonexistent.
P.S. I feel compelled to clarify this in case anyone actually believes in what was said and that phoenixes are killing people left and right. Lol. Phoenixes won't harm their Keepers by burning them (lol), or harm anybody else, even if there is fire around them. They are peaceful beings. They are WA. However, if you become their enemy, you will feel their fiery wrath in a different way.
the sensed relative temperature was somewhat below 32*F. Columbine wildflowers are said to be cold hardy to -20*F, I think. If Mars is capable of sustained biome longevity, then I would feel that future colonization plans from SpaceX should consider habitation options of using existing lava tubes as natural shelter from solar extremes.