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chanfara wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 6:54 am I believe it's not likely. I don't have fears.
Everyone has fears. Those we know about and those we don't.
Only fools, the ignorant, mad men and the dead don't have fears. Or at least claim to not have them.

Fear is a vital part of survival, only to be ruled by it is a problem. If you didn't have any fears, that means you don't really have a proper survival instinct either.
Although it might seem manly to claim to have no fears, you wouldn't have courage either without fear. I'd rather be corageous than fearless.

Never let ego suppress the truth, you'll just be worse off for it, especially in the long run. The jungian shadow is a dangerous thing.
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Aprophis wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 7:42 am
chanfara wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 6:54 am I believe it's not likely. I don't have fears.
Everyone has fears. Those we know about and those we don't.
Only fools, the ignorant, mad men and the dead don't have fears. Or at least claim to not have them.

Fear is a vital part of survival, only to be ruled by it is a problem. If you didn't have any fears, that means you don't really have a proper survival instinct either.
Although it might seem manly to claim to have no fears, you wouldn't have courage either without fear. I'd rather be corageous than fearless.

Never let ego suppress the truth, you'll just be worse off for it, especially in the long run. The jungian shadow is a dangerous thing.
I believe that fear in general needs food to work and make its effect like like identifying with negative thinking and trusting unappropriate beliefs etc... Does it appear when someone is watching a comedy movie ?
I was talking about fears regarding the situation i am facing. What do fears of heights or snakes have to do with the pendilum, please ?
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@chanfara There is various methods for how to handle the situation, I had an unbound that was attached after a terrible Saturn return that rocked me to the core and I came out even more sensitive. I'd recommend if you have your companions bound to you, trust them. During my Saturn return I unfortunately dealt with possession but there were methods I've learned from that event, one is telepathy and the other being automatic writing. And also how to apply those, after recovering which was very very hard I had my first bound companion being a courtwind 🪽 she was aware of the unbound succubus and I underwent multiple reiki healing s and also had to banish negative spirit entity attachments 👹. Those came up on Saturn days haha and I got the understanding to clean up my mess. But gradually I kept having more companion's bound to me and have learned to trust especially when getting the negative attachment removed. Trust is big one! If your keep is bound to you, they trusted you enough for you to be their keeper, it's a two way street and you must trust that they have your best interest too. Keep in mind that some situations like yours currently may be a pivotal point in your journey that you may need learn and endure on your own too. They respect the process as we are going through it haha. But yeah if it is really that bad and you suspect a bad being then maybe contact someone to banish or cleanse you, there's a guy on Instagram called American conjure and I've hit him up along with many others for assistance including CH!
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chanfara wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 11:30 am
Aprophis wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 7:42 am
chanfara wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 6:54 am I believe it's not likely. I don't have fears.
Everyone has fears. Those we know about and those we don't.
Only fools, the ignorant, mad men and the dead don't have fears. Or at least claim to not have them.

Fear is a vital part of survival, only to be ruled by it is a problem. If you didn't have any fears, that means you don't really have a proper survival instinct either.
Although it might seem manly to claim to have no fears, you wouldn't have courage either without fear. I'd rather be corageous than fearless.

Never let ego suppress the truth, you'll just be worse off for it, especially in the long run. The jungian shadow is a dangerous thing.
I believe that fear in general needs food to work and make its effect like like identifying with negative thinking and trusting unappropriate beliefs etc... Does it appear when someone is watching a comedy movie ?
I was talking about fears regarding the situation i am facing. What do fears of heights or snakes have to do with the pendilum, please ?
Hi @chanfara .

I'm not piling in against you here and I don't want to. I'll just make one more point then back off.

Fears, anxieties and worries need not be apparent and obvious. In fact mere uncertainty or doubt can qualify. It is the very subtle stuff going on even subliminally or unconsciously that can be triggering subtle, unnoticed projections and blocks to progress.

The reason Jung called it the Shadow is because it's not out in the open. It's hidden. It's a blind spot for most of us.

The really sneaky thing is that it doesn't cease to operate just because we know it could be an issue, or are spiritually aware. In fact even though I've studied Franz Bardon's book and practiced the introspection and thought control steps dedicatedly, it didn't stop. It's a permanent way our minds are always working that needs continual awareness & work on by us on a lifelong basis.

I'm in danger of sounding like I'm trying to persuade you that your issue/problem is just projection/shadow related. I don't know you and do not claim to know this at all.

It may well be that you're right.

I can however fully support @Aprophis"s recommendations.

Also, yes, mindfulness can be a good way to calm our mental energy down. But, of course, uncertainty can still remain and it's very easy for us to dowse/divine our subtle uncertainties or 'fears', especially with a pendulum.

I wish you good luck dealing with this and hope that, if nothing else, at least some of the information has been interesting, if not in the end useful.
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chanfara wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 11:30 am I believe that fear in general needs food to work and make its effect like like identifying with negative thinking and trusting unappropriate beliefs etc.
Sure, fear might need food but fear isn't just "Oh, no a snake, AAAAH".
Fear can be about being afraid of failing, being afraid of not being good enough. Every doubt is based on fear.

If you ever get anxious, if you ever get nervous, if you ever question yourself, that, too can be a fear response.

I mean sure, you could say you're objectively thinking about yourself. But that would also mean you would have to turn off all emotions, conscious and subconscious and any emotional attachment to yourself.
That's rather hard to do unless you're a robot.
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Crossover93 wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 10:03 pm @chanfara There is various methods for how to handle the situation, I had an unbound that was attached after a terrible Saturn return that rocked me to the core and I came out even more sensitive. I'd recommend if you have your companions bound to you, trust them. During my Saturn return I unfortunately dealt with possession but there were methods I've learned from that event, one is telepathy and the other being automatic writing. And also how to apply those, after recovering which was very very hard I had my first bound companion being a courtwind 🪽 she was aware of the unbound succubus and I underwent multiple reiki healing s and also had to banish negative spirit entity attachments 👹. Those came up on Saturn days haha and I got the understanding to clean up my mess. But gradually I kept having more companion's bound to me and have learned to trust especially when getting the negative attachment removed. Trust is big one! If your keep is bound to you, they trusted you enough for you to be their keeper, it's a two way street and you must trust that they have your best interest too. Keep in mind that some situations like yours currently may be a pivotal point in your journey that you may need learn and endure on your own too. They respect the process as we are going through it haha. But yeah if it is really that bad and you suspect a bad being then maybe contact someone to banish or cleanse you, there's a guy on Instagram called American conjure and I've hit him up along with many others for assistance including CH!
Thank you bro. I appreciate your take on the situation. I totally agree
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Alaric wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 11:10 pm
chanfara wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 11:30 am
Aprophis wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 7:42 am
chanfara wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 6:54 am I believe it's not likely. I don't have fears.
Everyone has fears. Those we know about and those we don't.
Only fools, the ignorant, mad men and the dead don't have fears. Or at least claim to not have them.

Fear is a vital part of survival, only to be ruled by it is a problem. If you didn't have any fears, that means you don't really have a proper survival instinct either.
Although it might seem manly to claim to have no fears, you wouldn't have courage either without fear. I'd rather be corageous than fearless.

Never let ego suppress the truth, you'll just be worse off for it, especially in the long run. The jungian shadow is a dangerous thing.
I believe that fear in general needs food to work and make its effect like like identifying with negative thinking and trusting unappropriate beliefs etc... Does it appear when someone is watching a comedy movie ?
I was talking about fears regarding the situation i am facing. What do fears of heights or snakes have to do with the pendilum, please ?
Hi @chanfara .

I'm not piling in against you here and I don't want to. I'll just make one more point then back off.

Fears, anxieties and worries need not be apparent and obvious. In fact mere uncertainty or doubt can qualify. It is the very subtle stuff going on even subliminally or unconsciously that can be triggering subtle, unnoticed projections and blocks to progress.

The reason Jung called it the Shadow is because it's not out in the open. It's hidden. It's a blind spot for most of us.

The really sneaky thing is that it doesn't cease to operate just because we know it could be an issue, or are spiritually aware. In fact even though I've studied Franz Bardon's book and practiced the introspection and thought control steps dedicatedly, it didn't stop. It's a permanent way our minds are always working that needs continual awareness & work on by us on a lifelong basis.

I'm in danger of sounding like I'm trying to persuade you that your issue/problem is just projection/shadow related. I don't know you and do not claim to know this at all.

It may well be that you're right.

I can however fully support @Aprophis"s recommendations.

Also, yes, mindfulness can be a good way to calm our mental energy down. But, of course, uncertainty can still remain and it's very easy for us to dowse/divine our subtle uncertainties or 'fears', especially with a pendulum.

I wish you good luck dealing with this and hope that, if nothing else, at least some of the information has been interesting, if not in the end useful.
NP thank you. The information you provided is intersting. I just wanted to clarify more the situation so that we could possibly find the appropriate solution.
I have 3 scenarios in mind :
1- It's just a random trickster (The most likely)
2- My enemies have sent spirits to hinder my advancement (I think i can deal with this if i know how to turn it to my advantage and trusting my companions is a key element here) and i have to work hard to overcome it and i have to solve this as quickly as possible too
3- My subconscious is interfering somehow (The least likely)
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@chanfara anytime. If you have questions feel free to ask me!
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chanfara wrote: Wed May 07, 2025 11:35 am NP thank you. The information you provided is intersting. I just wanted to clarify more the situation so that we could possibly find the appropriate solution.
I have 3 scenarios in mind :
1- It's just a random trickster (The most likely)
2- My enemies have sent spirits to hinder my advancement (I think i can deal with this if i know how to turn it to my advantage and trusting my companions is a key element here) and i have to work hard to overcome it and i have to solve this as quickly as possible too
3- My subconscious is interfering somehow (The least likely)
This is more a summary than a clarification.

1) Why would a trickster choose you, someone with spiritual bodyguards, specifically, over the millions of people without any protection? If the trickster wanted a challenge, there's more powerful people out there than you with better protections.
2) How and why do you have enemies. Especially enemies with spirits. Enemies that are so petty and stupid to send spirits to bother someone else instead of letting the spirits help them have a better life.

Did you get readings yet or are you still just guessing?
What are your spiritual practices concerning protection? Like shielding, warding, banishment, cleansing?
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Aprophis wrote: Thu May 08, 2025 6:56 am
chanfara wrote: Wed May 07, 2025 11:35 am NP thank you. The information you provided is intersting. I just wanted to clarify more the situation so that we could possibly find the appropriate solution.
I have 3 scenarios in mind :
1- It's just a random trickster (The most likely)
2- My enemies have sent spirits to hinder my advancement (I think i can deal with this if i know how to turn it to my advantage and trusting my companions is a key element here) and i have to work hard to overcome it and i have to solve this as quickly as possible too
3- My subconscious is interfering somehow (The least likely)
This is more a summary than a clarification.

1) Why would a trickster choose you, someone with spiritual bodyguards, specifically, over the millions of people without any protection? If the trickster wanted a challenge, there's more powerful people out there than you with better protections.
2) How and why do you have enemies. Especially enemies with spirits. Enemies that are so petty and stupid to send spirits to bother someone else instead of letting the spirits help them have a better life.

Did you get readings yet or are you still just guessing?
What are your spiritual practices concerning protection? Like shielding, warding, banishment, cleansing?
Yes you are right about random trickster. I think it's just me trying to be optimistic towards the situation.

The main enemies are malicious spirits. They are the most suspected. The suspected human is a very talented psychic who is corrupt and i've caused her problems. She doesn't want me to figure out everything about her because she can go to prison. For the reading, i've sent requests to the persons that you have suggested and i am waiting for their reply
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