Ghul Djinn?

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Black Panther wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:00 am @venusian_entity
This is correct. Humans are DA.
Although different practitioners have different ranking scales of what they believe are classified as GA, DA and Black Arts.
Yes absolutely so it is important to ask how they define it. Whenever a human is classified as "white arts" I rescale it to mean "light end of dark arts."

When a living human claims to be white arts, what I hear is that person saying "I always choose benevolence. I am infallible to human pettiness and mistakes that other humans make. I AM GOOD ALL THE TIME." which is just not possible. If they start saying stuff like "You should trust me because I am White Arts. I will always do what is good. You should listen to me, not others. Follow me..." then it gets dangerous. That's what a cult leader is, if they have the power and charisma...
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Black Panther wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:00 am @venusian_entity
This is correct. Humans are DA.
Although different practitioners have different ranking scales of what they believe are classified as GA, DA and Black Arts.
Yes absolutely so it is important to ask how they define it. Whenever a human is classified as "white arts" I rescale it to mean "light end of dark arts."

When a living human claims to be white arts, what I hear is that person saying "I always choose benevolence. I am infallible to human pettiness and mistakes that other humans make. I AM GOOD ALL THE TIME." which is just not possible. If they start saying stuff like "You should trust me because I am White Arts. I will always do what is good. You should listen to me, not others. Follow me..." then it gets dangerous. That's what a cult leader is, if they have the power and charisma.

*Sorry for double post. I can't tell if my post was submitted.
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venusian_entity wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 8:05 am
Black Panther wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:00 am @venusian_entity
This is correct. Humans are DA.
Although different practitioners have different ranking scales of what they believe are classified as GA, DA and Black Arts.
Yes absolutely so it is important to ask how they define it. Whenever a human is classified as "white arts" I rescale it to mean "light end of dark arts."

When a living human claims to be white arts, what I hear is that person saying "I always choose benevolence. I am infallible to human pettiness and mistakes that other humans make. I AM GOOD ALL THE TIME." which is just not possible. If they start saying stuff like "You should trust me because I am White Arts. I will always do what is good. You should listen to me, not others. Follow me..." then it gets dangerous. That's what a cult leader is, if they have the power and charisma.

*Sorry for double post. I can't tell if my post was submitted.
Haha. Yeah, famous last words. Even the most benevolent people I have known eventually do malevolent things due to their emotions or inability to get the results they are looking for. But you should stay away from anyone that says what you wrote above, because they clearly are narcissists and liars. Many of these types also believe that healing can only be done through WA energy, which is also dead wrong.

I practice very DA but I still use WA for some things. Understanding of WA and DA and even BA energy will make you more diverse. You choose what you need to work with to achieve the tasks at hand. It is up to you the practitioner to employ ethics or set boundaries in what energy you will use and how you will apply it. This is why a practitioner needs to be very strong willed in order to stand their ground when confronted with very DA or even borderline BA spirits and entities.
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@venusian_entity I highly doubt that both of you were aware of the fact that we were discussing entirely different matters. None of us claims to possess qualities of X or Y. It is our distinctive energy signature, an aspect we cannot deny or evade. Only if you possess the capability to perceive these energies firsthand will you comprehend. It's akin to questioning why angels affirm their association with WA. Their energy signature defines them as such. And why are ghul djinns identified as DA? It is due to their energy signatures. There are also BA ghul djinns. Why does this occur? Because their energy signatures dictate so. They did not deliberately choose it themselves.

Regarding whether all humans are DA, Magnolia believes that being good or evil is part of our inherent DA nature, which is true, just like the nature of your DA spirits. Just as spirits can choose to do good or bad, so can we. We possess the power to choose our actions, whether they be virtuous or malevolent.

We are inherently 'DA in nature' as a race due to our high duality, yet many of us possess WA energy signatures, which sets us apart as WA individuals. These are two distinctly different aspects, which contribute to our identities as both WA and DA living entities. Yet, as a WA living human being, you still have the ability to make choices, even ones that may not align with the principles of goodness.

A compelling example is ASTER's post, where you can sense her energy signature. Her energy signature resonates with WA, making her a WA individual, much like your WA spirits and entities. However, we humans, by nature, are DA, allowing us to make choices between good and bad. This explanation aims to provide a clearer understanding for those who are so fixated on WA vs. DA or light vs. dark distinctions, as there are numerous energies coexisting within your own system.
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I really want a Ghul Djinn, I've been working with darker entities my whole life but I've only ever owned an Ifrit.
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Thank you for your posts. Can learn a lot of it. I decided to start living with one of Ghul Djinn-niyyah (famale djinn). But to be sure I prefer to read about them before. Hopefully everything will be fine and they will follow our house rules.
Ps. Shame there is no option to send private messages.
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@Portis When I needed answers, no one was around, so I decided to be that person for others. I love helping out! Thankfully, there are no private messages here. Otherwise, my inbox would be flooded with negativity. Lol. :'D It looks like you have a lot of questions on your mind. Feel free to ask your questions in the right sections of the forum, and I'll see if I can answer them.
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Tarvos wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 3:18 am I love helping out! Thankfully, there are no private messages here. Otherwise, my inbox would be flooded with negativity. Lol.
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This topic was really interesting so ill chime in my waffle!

I have never really felt drawn to djinn for anything more than curiosity (which I have for all races!) however I did get stuck while browsing on an intuition listing from I believe Sophi, of a ghul djinn, there was definitely a draw and a good 15 mins of feeling, it was not oppressively dark, actually the opposite, strangely and soothingly cool is how I would describe it. Despite not going any further it was a noteworty experience.

I absolutely believe humans are DA, I have never encountered a human in my experiences that was even remotely close to being classified as "beyond the capability for evil" however I have encountered 1-2 who I could say with certainty were completely beyond the capability of making any choice that could be considered pure or not harmful to others.
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