The Dangers of AI, ChatGPT, OpenAI, and Real Spirit Keeping Experience and Authenticity

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Magnolia wrote: Mon Aug 18, 2025 8:16 pm [...]You never said that AI would replace conjurers, but it's not a leap at all. If AI is any part of the process in terms of conjuration (even if it just starts with enhancing, fluffing, expanding, etc. conjuration notes) then the next logical step would be conjurers who begin to tout AI as part of the process of the actual conjuration.

It will happen, if it hasn't already. It's a future step, if it's not a next step, where you will see shops/sites explaining the benefits of an AI conjuration where the AI conjures the spirit or living entity - which will be somehow explained why it's okay and a good idea because the human shop owner will still be involved in some way, but your conjuration will originate with AI.

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That makes logical sense. Thinking out loud, for those who believe there's an infinite multiverse some can say they believe that all fictional characters have an existence in some part of the multiverse and can be bound. In fact Dark Lord Midnight was pretty popular here for his ability to do those kinds of bindings, if I remember correctly.

I tend to conceive of them as different to spirit companions, although they can seem similar. Back when Eclipse Metaphysical was in business I bought a total of 50 sentient guardians - created constructs, if you will, expertly crafted and programmed with multiple abilities to work magic, protect and to interact with their owner, like a spirit companion would. The feeling and energy was not identical though.

I have a great book on the many scientific theories of multiverses by a noted physicist, Brian Greene. In one chapter he explains how it's theorised that even each mathematical equation is a universe in itself.

With such a broad, diverse background of ideas about multiverses to draw on, yes, I can indeed imagine that someone might make a metaphysical claim that the spirit character that appears in an AI 'working' or 'conjuration' is a real being.

Thinking further though, that could give rise to people doing it for themselves, cutting out the 'conjurer', which would potentially make it less commercially viable for such seller.

An AI 'conjurer' would need to come up with a unique selling point. Maybe that would be their offer to do a binding of the AI-'conjured' character. Or to claim that due to their special abilities only their AI conjuration would produce the best kind of 'spirit'.

I've spotted recently some articles about the rise or fear of the rise of AI psychosis... ie that people are feeling that they're having relationships with AI-generated characters as if they're real.

Hmmm...I can see how characters can come alive in someone's imagination. That happens for some writers. It seems to be a similar kind of mental process that can develop a Tulpa. Although I tend to feel that modern Tulpamancy doesn't quite meet the rigorous demands of the original specialist Tibetan Buddhist practice.

Tl/dr: Spirits and Living Entities are no way the same as even a construct created to behave as a sentient being; nor as a fictional character binding nor a Tulpa. An AI 'conjuration' or 'binding' may become a Thing. And I can see that being a gift for scammers. But it will never be spirit keeping, as spirits are what they are. AI generated 'spirit' characters are just that and always will be. Human usage may result in psychosis or even form thought forms that will have genuine paranormal presence but both of those are already possible with other things.

Even simpler, AI- generated characters are not and cannot be spirits. I hope people don't get confused.
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10856672/
This is closer to my search. Interesting, how big artificial intelligence programing getting so wide spread more then generally we would expect it.
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Yup, I can testify that a popular shop is using a.i. to write biographies as well. All the ones I checked were written by a.i. It's hard to bite through that apple from eden. Sad as well. Makes you question everything.
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i think many seller use ai for form they text..it does not mean they are not real conjurers. i have once wanted to use ai, , see how it make my text better and less gramaticaly uncorrect but wow..it was so much not my own words anymore. so i let it be, i do not edit with ai lol but i still do know seller on etsy that use ai and the beings from them are very real. hope this helps.
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Seraphina Beryl wrote: Sat Jul 19, 2025 10:35 pm This is another reason why I tend to avoid buying any spirits from Etsy because I got tired of sifting through the muck.
For the past couple of years I've only purchased companions from Ch, mmt, and Sophi's shop. (I've never experienced any AI writing from them that I could tell)

Ch works well for me and sticking with them simplifies things for me so I don't have any guess work.

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Bumping this post, as someone just said they put their readings through AI to summarize them. Please, and I mean this with every fiber of sincerity, do NOT do that. We did not convey the information through AI writing, your companions did not convey the information through AI, and any divination received on our part in other types of readings, did NOT come from AI. So, do NOT use AI to restructure, rephrase, or summarize your readings.

Speaking only for ourselves, the information you are given comes from a pure place, keep it pure. You are going to lose the true nature of the reading by feeding it through AI software and receiving something compacted on the other end.

AI is not sentient, it is not communicating with your companions or receiving divine information from the Universe, so don't treat it as such.

I will go out on a limb enough to say that I'm sure other practitioners wouldn't recommend this or want their words or the words your companions shared with them, mutilated via AI where things could be misconstrued or misunderstood thanks to the "summary" of AI software.
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I am grateful you have brought this issue to the attention of the community. Conjurers sharing their authentic experiences with a given race is important. Over the last year I found an etsy seller who seems to pluck the names of spirit races they don't understand off my site and other reputable sites and uses an AI program to write up a pretty but inaccurate representation of that race. If a seller must absolutely use AI to write their listings, they should at the very least be responsible and read it over for accuracy and ensure they have the knowledge to fact check anything generated by AI. I always caution keepers that when AI is involved in a description and something seems off, to ask questions and ask more questions.
Thank you again Magnolia for continuing to bring important matters such as this to the attention of the community OC:


Magnolia wrote: Sat Jul 19, 2025 10:12 pm
There is more than a lot to be said about context and authentic knowledge when you are writing something. When AI is reading something and re-writing it so you don't get in trouble for blatantly ripping off the life's work of other people, the AI software isn't knowledgeable, it's regurgitating something you presented it. These anomalies can cause a lot of misinformation and confusion for people genuinely wanting to learn about Spirit Keeping.

Misinformation and confusion was bad enough before AI, but this has raised the problematic bar to a whole new level. The need for vigilance, to know WHO you are learning from, what their real experiences are, what their tenure and experience genuinely is in the field, is more important than ever.
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Lullaby007 wrote: Fri Sep 05, 2025 9:42 am Yup, I can testify that a popular shop is using a.i. to write biographies as well. All the ones I checked were written by a.i. It's hard to bite through that apple from eden. Sad as well. Makes you question everything.
Hello there Lullaby! Greetings from Eden's Apple. I will address you directly. Does Eden's Apple use AI? I, the conjurer at Eden's Apple, solely conjures, vets, and binds the daemon companions. I also write the biographies, but my writing isn't the best. Thus, I, like many other companies in 2025, pay for a program to fix and improve my grammar. A.I is not writing my biographies, I am and A.I is improving my writing. The two are not synonymous.

"makes you question everything" No, it makes YOU question. For those of my clients who have developed psychic abilities (that's majority of them) they can confirm the information provided about their companions are accurate. That's because it's me, the conjurer, who is providing the information.

I can not speak for any other shop, I hope nobody is making false biographies using AI, but as for Eden's Apple, the biographies are written by me then run through A.I to improve my writing. There's nothing wrong with what I'm doing. My work is still honest work. It just sounds better now :)

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After the above necessary clarification, I'd like to weigh in on this topic. My opinion may not be favored, but here goes. A.I is not sentient. It can not speak for deities on their behalf to you, it can not access the akashic records, it can't conjure entities, it can't connect to the astral and give you information about a race of beings, and it can't connect to a spirit or entity to write their biographies. A.I is a tool. It can be used to enhance your writing. Even shopify has an option to enhance your listings using their A.I. Almost every website you visit has been enhanced by A.I in some form or another. We are in the times of technology. Use it or fall behind. The world is only going to get more technically advanced. Luckily for us conjurers, A.I can not replace our jobs. You need the divine spark to connect to divinity.

Now, using A.I to enhance your writing does come with its flaws. So if you do so, expect to still be doing editing, as it like to spit out randomness. I do not think it's bad to use a tool to enhance your writing, however, it becomes a problem when people use A.I and think it's conjuring for them or connecting them to beings in the astral. If one is using A.I to conjure and vet a spirit or entity, they are mistaken. And shame on they who are knowingly using AI to create false listings. It is those people who give actual conjure shops a bad name.

A.I can be a tool, but it can also be dangerous. I've watched someone fall into spiritual psychosis talking with AI. But that's a whole other topic for another day
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Eden's Eve wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 7:39 pm [...]
Now, using A.I to enhance your writing does come with its flaws. So if you do so, expect to still be doing editing, as it like to spit out randomness. I do not think it's bad to use a tool to enhance your writing, [...]
Hello. It sounds like you may be ensuring the orignal description you wrote remains true, even after AI help with editing. This could be not much different from using the grammar and spelling check in a word processor, depending on who's proof reading the editing.

I made a point earlier in the thread. I think @Magnolia also made more or less the same point in her comments. It's that when I do conjurations for myself, the way beings express themselves to me varies quite a lot. Sometimes their communication doesn't seem entirely grammatically correct but, when I contemplate the message in its pure, original version - ie without me having tried to paraphrase it into a more 'nornal' sentence, it resonates far more with meaning and energy, their original intent, their personality etc.

So what I think would be lost if I tried to edit the initial 'reading' of what the spirit tries to tell me would be, as Magnolia says, a lot.

I am - and would be - happy for any message from a spirit companion to be relayed to me in the form it was originally received, no matter whether it was grammatically imperfect. In fact that would be an added bonus for me, as I'm not sure all spirit types think and talk in exactly similar concepts or perspectives on reality to what's embedded in modern grammar check tools or AI editing.

I think that's a valid preference to have. So I completely get @Magnolia's explanation of that point.
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