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Dionysus

Postby Twilight Storm » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:46 pm

Hi all,

I have a code for a spirit stone and would like an Immortal. Trouble is, I'm in two minds over whether to go for Dionysus, who seems to jump out at me in the listings.

I don't drink, hate drunk people and have real problems with hedonism and the effect of alcohol on society - and yet Dionysus is, essentially, the fat drunk bloke :lol: I'm also vegetarian, so the idea of ripping flesh apart ain't appealing.

But equally I can see all kinds of things I really like: the musical connection, wanting people to all get on with each other, the not quite 'fitting in', overcoming other people's prejudices and manipulation, experiencing moments of great inspiration and creativity, and learning lessons from being a bit TOO drunk.

I imagine that most immortals will have something about them I don't like, so I was wondering whether anyone had any thoughts on this? Is there someone more suitable? Am I perhaps going about choosing in all the wrong way?



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Re: Dionysus

Postby Twilight Storm » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:59 pm

Ah well, I've gone for it, we'll have to see! :sly:



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Re: Dionysus

Postby Sovereign » Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:40 pm

Good for you, Twilight! I think you may be pleasantly surprised with Dionysus. :thumbup:
He's on my watch-list. He and Prometheus. :lol:

I'm not a drinker either, though born an alcoholic. I'm rather reserved in social situations - read anti-social - so I thought Dionysus would be an interesting Immortal to have, to feel more at ease in groups of people. Among all the other qualities that he has. Legend says that there is a part of Dionysus in every one of us. ;)

One part of his legend that I only recently learned of is the fact that when he was made part of the pantheon his first act as a god was to take his mother out of Hades and place her with him. Very nice of him, considering the fact she died before he was born.



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Re: Dionysus

Postby Maythen21 » Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:42 pm

Although he did not have an immortal stone, my husband worked with Dionysus for several years.

My husband doesn't drink At All, and comes from a family with a great deal of addiction issues. I love him, but he's a pretty uptight guy, and at that point in his development, still quick to judge others. When Dionysus first came to him, it seemed like a terrible fit, I couldn't imagine anyone less in tune with that energy than my logical, reasonable, analytical, sober husband.

But in the end, he gained a tremendous amount of understanding and compassion from his time with the God, he improved his social skills, and learned to lighten up on other people and himself.

I find that I am often taught the most difficult lessons by energies I wouldn't have otherwise invited into my life.



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Re: Dionysus

Postby Twilight Storm » Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:57 pm

I think I've made a good choice :thumbup: On one hand I totally identify with some of the qualities and any I don't appear to actually be an interesting message...difficult to explain but I reckon I got it right! Enruit appears to agree so this should be interesting. Peace, social skills and magnifying unique qualities sounds good to me! :superman:



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Re: Dionysus

Postby Noctua » Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:25 am

It is good that you realise some things in common you and this immortal have, but otherwise I would just have to say - sometimes opposites attract! ;) We can learn a lot by balancing ourselves out, if there is a spirit or immortal that seems to come from a completely different side of things then it may not feel like it will work - but in truth it will be rewarding for those who want to learn about things that they can't seem to get into themselves.



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Re: Dionysus

Postby Twilight Storm » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:25 pm

He's here, in a fantastic stone I shall post a picture of when I have finished squealing over the rest of my items :flower:

Oddly, since I placed the order, two of my friends from work have admitted they have alcohol problems and need to sort themselves out...



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Re: Dionysus

Postby Alys-RaccoonReadings » Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:22 am

Really, really enjoyed this perspective on Dionysus. <3

From https://www.patheos.com/blogs/agora/201 ... outsiders/:

Dionysus is considered a god of those on the edges of society, especially LGBTQ+/rainbow folk and immigrants. He himself was considered an outsider. From his birth he was cast out by Hera, and then cast out again by Zeus for his own protection. His origin story varies; the place he is said to have been raised, Mt. Nysa, could be in Egypt, Phoenicia, India, or Arabia. He’s a god of indeterminate and ever fluctuating borders.

There are numerous long and droning texts about all the foreign cities he visits in his adulthood in what seems to be a conquest across the Eurasian/ African continents....

While traveling he conquered/liberated various cities and left a peaceful, civil society with fair laws in his wake. This leads me to believe those who say he was a conqueror or an antagonist were those in positions of power; those who benefitted from the status quo had the most to lose. He has always been on the side of the underdog, the marginalized.

Various texts refer to him as effeminate or womanly; in today’s understanding of gender, many of us who work with Dionysus consider him nonbinary or genderfluid. He’s also had relationships with [both] men and women...

In my experience, Dionysus is hard to pin down by design, and any attempts to fit him in a rigid box are doing him a disservice. Fluidity is an intrinsic component of his energy.

Dionysus knows how it feels to be told you are unwelcome and unwanted; he knows that pain, and he knows how to fight through it and carve a home out for yourself, and knows when to leave and find somewhere that will nourish you. He’s a god for the modern age, a god of the revolution to come.

He is here to remind you you’re not alone here.



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Re: Dionysus

Postby Alys-RaccoonReadings » Sat May 04, 2019 10:29 pm

Thought this (https://www.patheos.com/blogs/agora/201 ... mysteries/) was a good find:

A Ritual For Ecstasis and Dionysus Mystes

It’s recommended that you put out an offering for Dionysus first- wine, honey, a candle, incense, or any combination thereof are solid places to start, but feel free to get weird. Personally I recommend listening to Dead Can Dance’s Dionysus album.

You should do this somewhere you can dance, and ideally with a fire of some sort.

Become present in your body by closing your eyes and bringing your attention to your other senses.

What do you hear?

What do you smell?

Feel your breath and follow it in and out.

Focus on your feet, then your calves; let your awareness travel up your body, up through your tailbone, your spine. Feel the energy flowing into you from the earth and out through your hands.

How does it feel?

Relax all the tension from your body. Consciously soften the knots in your neck, in your back, in your shoulders.

Release, fully.

We call to the Liberator.

Imagine that before you is a bridge.

Imagine that all of your burdens and insecurities and self doubt are tangible and in your hands. Perhaps what they look like is significant. Perhaps not.

Throw them over the edge of the bridge.

Continue to the other side, lighter and with a freer mind. From the banks of the river the bridge crosses, there is forest. You smell fire. You follow a trail of broken underbrush and the occasional footprint. You walk through the forest, aware of the entities and spirits weaving through the trees. Music rides the breeze from the end of the trail. You are nearing the bonfire, a circle beaten down around it from years and years of dancing. There is a sourceless laughter, so full of mirth it causes something to bubble up inside your chest.

There is a tone, a sound deep inside you. It resonates in your bones.

Echo it aloud. Let it come from your core.

Release all the tension from your body. Allow yourself to loosen, to sway, to move.

Stomp the earth, yell, laugh, sing, hum, dance, trance; cast aside your inhibitions. Exist only in this moment.

Join the dance of the Bacchae.




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