Karma is an interesting topic but probably not for this thread. The best way to explain it would be reading sin eaters describes. They do not take your karma but they do take it's ill effects during sessions if it makes since. Even though person a did horrible things sheild is up doesn't mean it's forgottenLewk wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 3:20 amMy thought is the ritual is designed to do what it says it does. (See beginning of the original post at the top of this thread.)VanNocturne wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:10 pmQuestion;
But first some context.
Person A performs this ritual for themselves. But Person A has done something really heinous to Person B and Person B has been traumatised by Person A's actions. Person B casts a curse to rid themselves of the trauma of Person A's actions, and get revenge.
Will this protection spell still work to protect Person A?![]()
"THIS IS SOMETHING ANYONE CAN USE. IT IS A MAINSTAY BLOCK AGAINST MANY OF THE COMMON & NOT-SO-COMMON THREATS IN FORMS OF MAGIC, ENERGY, SPIRIT, OR ENTITY.
PROTECTION RITUAL, PROVIDES ARMOR FOR PERSON PERFORMING RITUAL PERMANENTLY AGAINST ALL FORMS OF CURSES, HEXES, EVIL EYES, MALICIOUS MAGIC, EVIL OR DANGEROUS SPIRITS & ENTITIES, AND ALL FORMS OF NEGATIVE INFLUENCE. THIS IS THE ULTIMATE IN ARMOR PROTECTION & WILL KEEP YOU SAFE FROM ANY INTRUDING MAGIC, ENERGIES, SPIRITS, AND/OR ENTITIES."
As can be seen, it says 'provides armour permanently [...] against all forms of curses [...]'. It doesn't mention there are exceptions. And that armour doesn't seem to be transactional - ie based on whether or not you've ever done wrong to someone.
It also doesn't mention karma. My understanding of what others understand about karma is the effects one's actions are part of an entirely separate mechanism to what this ritual protects against.
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You sound like person A. The protection ritual aims to shield anyone from curses and hexes. However, I must align myself with Lewk on this matter. It's important to acknowledge that even with the ritual in place, person A will still face consequences for their actions through the channel of karma. Let's remember that karma operates independently, serving as a separate channel for the repercussions of our deeds.VanNocturne wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:10 pmQuestion;
But first some context.
Person A performs this ritual for themselves. But Person A has done something really heinous to Person B and Person B has been traumatised by Person A's actions. Person B casts a curse to rid themselves of the trauma of Person A's actions, and get revenge.
Will this protection spell still work to protect Person A?![]()
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Tarvos wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:48 amYou sound like person A. The protection ritual aims to shield anyone from curses and hexes. However, I must align myself with Lewk on this matter. It's important to acknowledge that even with the ritual in place, person A will still face consequences for their actions through the channel of karma. Let's remember that karma operates independently, serving as a separate channel for the repercussions of our deeds.VanNocturne wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:10 pmQuestion;
But first some context.
Person A performs this ritual for themselves. But Person A has done something really heinous to Person B and Person B has been traumatised by Person A's actions. Person B casts a curse to rid themselves of the trauma of Person A's actions, and get revenge.
Will this protection spell still work to protect Person A?![]()
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Lewk wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 3:20 amMy thought is the ritual is designed to do what it says it does. (See beginning of the original post at the top of this thread.)VanNocturne wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:10 pmQuestion;
But first some context.
Person A performs this ritual for themselves. But Person A has done something really heinous to Person B and Person B has been traumatised by Person A's actions. Person B casts a curse to rid themselves of the trauma of Person A's actions, and get revenge.
Will this protection spell still work to protect Person A?![]()
"THIS IS SOMETHING ANYONE CAN USE. IT IS A MAINSTAY BLOCK AGAINST MANY OF THE COMMON & NOT-SO-COMMON THREATS IN FORMS OF MAGIC, ENERGY, SPIRIT, OR ENTITY.
PROTECTION RITUAL, PROVIDES ARMOR FOR PERSON PERFORMING RITUAL PERMANENTLY AGAINST ALL FORMS OF CURSES, HEXES, EVIL EYES, MALICIOUS MAGIC, EVIL OR DANGEROUS SPIRITS & ENTITIES, AND ALL FORMS OF NEGATIVE INFLUENCE. THIS IS THE ULTIMATE IN ARMOR PROTECTION & WILL KEEP YOU SAFE FROM ANY INTRUDING MAGIC, ENERGIES, SPIRITS, AND/OR ENTITIES."
As can be seen, it says 'provides armour permanently [...] against all forms of curses [...]'. It doesn't mention there are exceptions. And that armour doesn't seem to be transactional - ie based on whether or not you've ever done wrong to someone.
It also doesn't mention karma. My understanding of what others understand about karma is the effects one's actions are part of an entirely separate mechanism to what this ritual protects against.
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You're welcome.VanNocturne wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 6:02 amTo summarise your answer Lewk; this ritual is for basic protection. Anything that karma throws at Person A would still happen to them, because it's not any random feeder type Spirit, or an evil eye sort of thing. Got it! Thank you for answering my question!
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I thought there's no reason not to bump this post in case someone needs this.
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Thanks for Bumping Pegasus 123.
Due to the bump I found this highly interesting and important ritual.
Also thank you, Ash!
Due to the bump I found this highly interesting and important ritual.
Also thank you, Ash!
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I don't understand how bumping the pinned threads helps? Aren't they at the top always since they are pinned? But regardless. I did it. Completed it a couple of days ago. Started from 22nd Feb and ended on tenth day on full moon on 3rd March.

