Planning to get a second opinion on if I have Spirits

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Re: Planning to get a second opinion on if I have Spirits

Postby Inedible » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:12 am

This last book was the best one I have ever gotten my hands on. It combines Buddhist tradition with results from current research into the mind and brain. That's why I couldn't have read it twenty or thirty years ago. As I said, it has guided me through patches that have caused me to quit more times than I can count. Right now it is helping with problems I haven't gotten to before. This is why I don't want to mess with it. I need a few more months to stabilize things. Results are coming now. It is amazing. I am literally happier than I have ever been before. And my friend who is working the book with me also likes it most after reading so many others we can't say. You know how it is with these things - find someone you trust to verify your results.



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Re: Planning to get a second opinion on if I have Spirits

Postby Inedible » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:02 am

Charles_Odinforce wrote:I would put my spirits on tasks, REASONABLE tasks, remembering that all magick is constrained to the altering of probabilities (in a greater or lesser degree) and that even magickal beings are held to those limits.


Back when I first went to college in 1993 I met someone who had been attuned to Reiki. She didn't know a thing about it, really, beyond that she put her hands on someone and would let some energy flow. It didn't come from her and didn't drain her in the process. I'm not sure what year it was when I attended a Reiki demonstration in a book store by a Reiki Master and was chosen to receive a sample of the energy. She put her hands on my head and I felt the energy moving down to my stomach. I had been having trouble with the food at school and the well water of the city. The energy was clearly solid and real and I was able to grab hold of it mentally and send it back up. This convinced me to pay to be attuned to the master level over the course of 1998 and going into 1999. At that point, I started working with connecting with people at a distance and sending energy to them. Often it was necessary to get information about people so I started with a general person outline and waited for it to fill in with the details. It was as easy as letting go of control just a little. When I send energy to someone, I look at the way it feels like it is flowing. Sometimes it goes smoothly and just speeds up and slows down in cycles. Sometimes it builds up around me and I know it isn't being accepted. Other times it builds up around the person I am sending to and I accept that it will be received another time. Sometimes plans change and the person I am sending to isn't available at the scheduled time. It was 2002 when I really started collecting attunements at a distance and it was unusual to feel anything from them. But I would receive them to the best of my ability and then do self attunements afterward to strengthen the feel of the energy for when I would use it later. All I really needed to work with was a name on my end and someone on the other side who had some intent to allow me to connect. I did it many times with great success regardless of how tense I was and with no prep work. It only took a few seconds of connection if I just wanted to feel some energy exchange. A tough connection might take enough time to breathe in and out ten times. So how can it be so easy with random people around the world and so hard with a Succubus that I paid CH for who is supposed to be directly bound to my Spirit without even a vessel to separate us? Sometimes I send energy to someone and it is like running on ice. I just can't get any traction or any sense that someone is out there. This is how it has always been with my CH Spirits. When it happens with a person, it usually means that I don't have permission to connect. Like when one person is asking me to work on a third party. Buying custom conjures should avoid this issue because they were in on choosing to bond with me.

So that is the reasonable task. I want a sense of connection. Not all the time, but from time to time. The beginning of an exchange of energy and information.

My current progress with meditation is making a big difference. I expect that in a few months I will be able to use it as the basis for developing a variety of other skills. For now, though, my gut sense is to keep it simple.



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Re: Planning to get a second opinion on if I have Spirits

Postby Charles_Odinforce » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:24 am

The next thing I'd ask is, how much time do you set aside for that connection? What I mean is, sitting in a receptive state without much else going on?

The reason I ask that is, outside of a receptive state you may be more attuned (pun intended) more toward energies that predominantly reside in this realm. Reiki is a very physical energy, similar to Qi. Most people who have strong spirit senses also focus a lot of time on astral projection, not physical energy work. I'm a proponent that both sets of skills are needed.

You said sometimes you send energy to someone and don't get a feeling of any traction. Have you tried doing Reiki on various spirits and seeing what results you would get from that? It may strengthen your connection to them. If there are blockages likewise Reiki may overcome them.

Reiki is an engaged artform when it is in use, you may be holding space, but in holding space it's like holding a set of very gentle doors open, your hands are still on those doors. My thought on this is doing Reiki on the spirits uses a set of doors you are familiar with for working with a set you may have less a connection to?

For my part, most of what I do is in journey or a semi-state of trance. I only get pinged when emergencies are up, partially because that is my preference, partially because I learned to keep the division more solid for purposes of preventing illusion methods on my own mind. That gets into more of the minutia of my own training, but my point is you may NEED to practice something like Shamanic Journey to make a stronger connection. If you don't though, I'd still be interested to see the results you get from practicing Reiki on your spirits. You sound to have a large collection of them, so you should have many to practice with. I'd be surprised if you had an "ice traction reaction" on every single one, but I'm more than willing to wait and see what the results are. The Reiki suggestion isn't the end all be all, but it is the one I'm making right now.

You mentioned also in 2002 that you wouldn't always receive attunements easily and would need to self attune. That too to me suggests perhaps a limited range of energy sense focusing more on "life force" oriented energy. Not uncommon among many practitioners mind you.

So on a side note, have you done anything like vision questing or seeking your spirit guides? Have you had success in those areas?


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Re: Planning to get a second opinion on if I have Spirits

Postby Regholdain » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:06 am

This conversation is beginning to make a lot more sense at this point. I'm very interested how all this will work out. I think Charles makes some very good points about using a physical energy to work with spiritual energy. Could definitely be some of the reason you feel like the spirits aren't there. Could just be that their energy is very mystical / ethereal / close to death (they are spirits after all) and not like working Reiki with another living being. I can't make any suggestions but this seems somewhat plausible as a source of confusion for you. You work Reiki in the physical realm and the spirits are in the spiritual. As Charles suggests perhaps there is a needed evolution to expand your ability to the spiritual.



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Re: Planning to get a second opinion on if I have Spirits

Postby Regholdain » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:07 am

I just want to add I'm learning a lot from your discussion here. There are actually some good insights coming out of this.




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