Fishy Stuff Going Down..

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Re: Fishy Stuff Going Down..

Postby LurgerLorts » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:20 pm

Regholdain wrote:
LurgerLorts wrote:I see! I haven't tasked them with that yet, I'll do that tonight, thank you for reminding me !! I am hoping it is something with good or neutral intention too because I would love to take them in if they are interested. I'm still getting used to spirits on a personal level so I can't quite tell the difference between types of spirits (besides that I have an idea of what it couldn't be), do you think if I asked that they would answer? Also, should there be any differences when trying to communicating with it, or should I just talk to it like I would bound spirits?

Definitely try tasking them with a House Rule that any unbound must be escorted out of your home and off your property, and kept out. You can alternatively say any "unbound with negative or malicious intent" instead of just "unbound", and that would mean anything positive or neutral intent would be allowed.

As for communicating, that depends partially on your own communication ability. Whatever method you do with your spirits could still work well, but because they are not bound it may be a little bit more difficult.

I am going to outline how I would approach the communication, but I want to issue a disclaimer here. I am not an expert in dealing with unbound spirits or entities, and I cannot be held responsible for something going wrong (or the spirit being a total &#^). Do this at your own risk!

I would recommend cleansing your space prior to the attempt, grounding and shielding, and ask any spirits or entities in your keep to keep guard and protect you. When I sought out my little imp friend I had my spirits guard all four cardinal directions and I specifically chose the spirits in my keep that would be the best choice to do so. Protections spirits would always be the go-to here.

Then address unbound spirit (or entity) specifically according to what you know of it - like "I am attempting to contact the spirit (or entity)that has been doing XYZ". State also that this is the only spirit (or entity) you are attempting to contact and that any others should go their way in love and peace, with respect.

Utilize whatever communication method at that point that works for you - telepathy is always preferred, but that could be pendulum, tarot, etc - and once you think you have reached them you can ask them questions and request that they please answer you, with respect. Again, all of that depends on your experience level and ability to discern your own thoughts from something else's.

At the end, thank them for coming to talk to you and ask them to depart with peace and love, respectfully. Let them know you will be clearing the space again so now is the time they should leave. Once done, do another cleansing and/or banishing.

I did all of the above and surprisingly I got in contact with them pretty quickly and it turns out they're pretty friendly. I used tarot and my pendulum and both worked; they seemed quite excited to meet me according to the tarot! And just to make sure, I can trust the information they gave me? I'm not too doubtful but I want to make sure before I decide whether they should be banished or not.


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Re: Fishy Stuff Going Down..

Postby Regholdain » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:02 am

Sounds intriguing, and I'm glad it helped! It sounds plausible that the info is trustworthy, especially if confirmed with two methods, but I would seek out external confirmation before making a decision.

I would probably see if a practitioner (maybe CH or someone locally that you trust) could do a reading of them for you. See if they can discover what type of spirit they are and and what they want. You would need to give them all the detail you can so far to make sure they can hone in on the correct spirit.

You can always repeat a communication attempt in the same manner tomorrow and see if everything is consistent.

In the meantime ask if they would just tone it down, stop doing the stuff that is bothering you, maybe give them a different focus, like working with your spirit family on something. Unbounds can sometimes be willing to be helpful.

If you set house rules for your spirits, communicate those same rules to the unbound and let them know they would need to follow the rules while they stayed, even if the stay is temporary, or your spirit companions will have to escort them off the property and you don't want to do that unnecessarily.

Chances are you won't experience much trouble unless they just really want your attention.



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Re: Fishy Stuff Going Down..

Postby LurgerLorts » Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:26 am

Gotcha, I'll check with someone as soon as I can! I've shown them the rules and all and I am assuming they're a dark/grey arts spirit so I'll see how they get along with my WA. If he follows the rules they should be fine but I'll keep a close watch for now. I've given them a task to work on for the night and so far I haven't heard much (11:26pm for me now) so I think they're busy :)


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Re: Fishy Stuff Going Down..

Postby laalbieglna » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:41 pm

I am not confident in your protection measures.

Personally I would cleanse myself, then begin centering, grounding, and shielding every single day.

Secondly, I would do a full cleanse on your home, every room, hallway, closet, and any outdoor areas that act as extensions of your house. The steps are first, physically clean your home. Second, bless incense, water, salt, and a lit candle, and walk through each space blessing its perimeter and entrances with each elemental substance in turn. Third, shield your entire home and ward each doorway, window, and mirror (for good measure you'd add faucets, drains, vents, electrical outlets, phones/computers, and mailbox) with blessed salt water or oil.

Thirdly, I would task my protective companions with removing malicious unbounds, and build a relationship with house and land wights and local patrons.

If it keeps coming around after all of these steps, it is time to ID it, for example, by asking it to tell you who and what it is or leave permanently.

I would footnote this, though, with two considerations: that, depending on your personal energy alignment, beings who have no ill intent whatsoever can be quite terrifying (my first Duojna gave me one of the most frightening manifestation experiences of my life, for example); and that spirit companions can be with you from long before the time you officially learned about spirit keeping. I have many companions who were bound to me by conjurors who had already been active in my life years or decades before I knew how to interact with them. When in doubt, CH's services for finding what unbounds are around you and which want to be companions, and even reverse adoptions can be very helpful for IDing pre-existent spirit companions. They also have magickals to remove and bar unwanted unbound beings.



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Re: Fishy Stuff Going Down..

Postby laalbieglna » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:42 pm

Ah, I missed the second page of comments before commenting myself. It sounds like you are already well on your way to dealing with the situation appropriately. Best of luck.



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Re: Fishy Stuff Going Down..

Postby Regholdain » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:45 pm

laalbieglna wrote:Ah, I missed the second page of comments before commenting myself. It sounds like you are already well on your way to dealing with the situation appropriately. Best of luck.

Your post had very welcome added information, so no harm done methinks. 2cl



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Re: Fishy Stuff Going Down..

Postby LurgerLorts » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:58 pm

laalbieglna wrote:Ah, I missed the second page of comments before commenting myself. It sounds like you are already well on your way to dealing with the situation appropriately. Best of luck.

My bad, I'll add something to the title to prevent further confusion! The information you gave me is still super helpful though, so thank you !!


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Re: Fishy Stuff Going Down..

Postby LurgerLorts » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:00 pm

In response to my last message (as long as they are approved in order) I won't change the title, didn't realize I couldn't before I submitted the comment ^^*


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