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I am completely new to this forum. And looking for help.

I have a man who has been draining me for two years. He uses dream walking and hypnotizing to do this.

I have tried everything to stop this. Please, can you give me any advise to stop this?



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First question: do you have protection in place? (Spirits, spells, or both?) if not, that would be my absolute first step. It’s generally recommended that if you can have both spirits and spells for protection you should, since having lots of different kinds of spirits and spells covers more bases than just one or a few kinds.


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Creepy Hollows support can give advice on problems like this support@creepyhollows.com

There are also many products for protection available in the Creepy Hollows Shop.
eg https://shop.creepyhollows.com/druid-guard-spell.html
or https://shop.creepyhollows.com/monthly- ... -arts.html

But I'd like to ask how you know that a specific person is doing exactly this. Although some people or beings do do this kind of thing, most people will apparently not be targeted this way. It is more common to be worried about such a thing than to actually have it happen to you. There's a psychic phenomenon caused by worrying about psychic or magical attack, which triggers or mimics the same kind of effects. It is not pure imagination, in the way orthodox psychologists look at these things, but is a form of projection - a mental energy form - that feeds off worry.

But it never hurts to have protection measures in place. There's an adage that you can never have too much protection.

This could be a good one for you: https://shop.creepyhollows.com/great-wa ... r-orb.html


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What Lewk has said about the potential for a powerful projection to be happening is very important.

Aside from this, I can say that should the guy really be doing what you think, the dreamwalking + draining combo, along with a hypnotic ability actually makes me speculate that he is either consciously or unconsciously practicing a basic form of psychic vampirism. If that is the case it is good to know the specifics so you can better target the problem and remedy it.
Why would he be targeting you? Is there any emotional link you have to him that he can use to continue to do this? (Having strong feelings can form such a link and allow the person 'inside' inadvertently.) Do you have physical contact with him on a regular basis? How frequent are these 'attacks'?
I've had something of this nature occur before with someone who was infatuated with me, and I am also versed in the 'how to' of it due to my own practices; if you can give a bit more info maybe we can get down to the best solution.


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There's a psychic phenomenon caused by worrying about psychic or magical attack, which triggers or mimics the same kind of effects. It is not pure imagination, in the way orthodox psychologists look at these things, but is a form of projection - a mental energy form - that feeds off worry.
How interesting! I had no idea this could happen, thank you for the insight, it’s probably a good thing to be aware of!


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There's a psychic phenomenon caused by worrying about psychic or magical attack, which triggers or mimics the same kind of effects. It is not pure imagination, in the way orthodox psychologists look at these things, but is a form of projection - a mental energy form - that feeds off worry.
How interesting! I had no idea this could happen, thank you for the insight, it’s probably a good thing to be aware of!
Yes. I think different paths or magical practices may take subtly different angles on it. The version I first encountered is the one described by the notable modern Hermeticist Franz Bardon in his Initiation Into Hermetics (1956). He called the 'projections' Larvae and Schema,

A Larva is a bit like a complex or a repetitive anxiety effect on our mental energy. A schema is more like a paranoia effect on our mental energy. Both are a kind of thought form caused by us that take on a life of their own, unless we can starve them of their mental energy feeding with good thought / emotions control.

It's a very similar automatic, 'natural' mechanism, imo, to the one exploited intentionally by tibetan tulpamancers - or in servitor creation. At least it's in that whole general area, along with egregores (the crowds thoughtforms version)...more or less.


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Vipera aspis atra wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:12 am
What Lewk has said about the potential for a powerful projection to be happening is very important.

Aside from this, I can say that should the guy really be doing what you think, the dreamwalking + draining combo, along with a hypnotic ability actually makes me speculate that he is either consciously or unconsciously practicing a basic form of psychic vampirism. If that is the case it is good to know the specifics so you can better target the problem and remedy it.
Why would he be targeting you? Is there any emotional link you have to him that he can use to continue to do this? (Having strong feelings can form such a link and allow the person 'inside' inadvertently.) Do you have physical contact with him on a regular basis? How frequent are these 'attacks'?
I've had something of this nature occur before with someone who was infatuated with me, and I am also versed in the 'how to' of it due to my own practices; if you can give a bit more info maybe we can get down to the best solution.
Thank you, sorry to be so slow answering.

I know it is him. He began physically stalking me and destroying my property. I was able to get a TPO (temporary protective order.)

I do not have any connection to this person. I live in a small town so I knew who he was. I was as likes into a coffee shop, he was working there, from then on he did this.

It began with him in my dreams. He was reading me to see who I knew that practiced witchcraft and about the names in my family. He spends basically every minute of every day going this:

-Telepathic
-Dream walking (creates highly emotional “dreams” to feed off my energy)
-uses dreams to read every thing I do each day, especially since I started filing police reports
-I can feel tendrils or die s attach to my chakras, each one
-For a year he could send some emotion at me that would make me cry for hours like my husband was dead (we are not married, I fo not know him, we did not date...)

He told me he would do this til I’m dead or he is. He is a drug addict/ schooling with mental depression. I believe he has simply developed a few energy skills... but I don’t know how to stop him.

He intentionally targeted me and said he had been on and off reading me/ coming in my dreams for 8 years.

Thank you for the help. I have gone through about ten different energy people and no one gas been able to make him stop.

I feel he entered through my crown chakra in a dream. A person I Said he knew what he was doing and tried to stop him by entering through my root chakra in a dream. It did not work and made it much worse.



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Vipera aspis atra wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 5:12 am
What Lewk has said about the potential for a powerful projection to be happening is very important.

Aside from this, I can say that should the guy really be doing what you think, the dreamwalking + draining combo, along with a hypnotic ability actually makes me speculate that he is either consciously or unconsciously practicing a basic form of psychic vampirism. If that is the case it is good to know the specifics so you can better target the problem and remedy it.
Why would he be targeting you? Is there any emotional link you have to him that he can use to continue to do this? (Having strong feelings can form such a link and allow the person 'inside' inadvertently.) Do you have physical contact with him on a regular basis? How frequent are these 'attacks'?
I've had something of this nature occur before with someone who was infatuated with me, and I am also versed in the 'how to' of it due to my own practices; if you can give a bit more info maybe we can get down to the best solution.

Hi, thank you for replying,

Multiple people have said he is doing basic energy work/ being an energy vampire who has learned a few tricks.

I am not his friend/ have not dated him. It is a small town so I know who he is. I thought he was infatuated with me and began to avoid him.

When I did see him in public he would turn his back directly at me. But he was clearly showing up in my path repeatedly.

When it first started he appeared in my dreams and I would hear his name continually throughout the day. It slowly became every minute of the day. He literary never quits ever.

Although I do not have ANY relationship with this guy he seems to be able to send emotion at me. I would literally cry like had lost a boyfriend - then have to stand there and remind myself this guy is no one to me- a stranger.

Basically he stays linked to me 24 hours a day. As I fall asleep I am usually made to start driving a car or chopping food for the hypnotic part. Then I am put into dream situations to elicit emotion.... he told me I am his when I sleep.

He calls me his property. I can feel him link to chakras. He is highly telepathic.

The closest thing I could find to this is psionic energy vampires who use telepathy to link to people to steal energy.

I hope this helps.

Thank you again.



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The list of things you believe he is succeeding in doing to you are all parasitic in nature, so I feel we would want to look at this from the perspective of a parasite situation right now. It goes beyond general psy influence and tactics, and into a level of wanting to assert a very involved bond/attachment for the sake of being merged with you and part of your life in some way. Not surprising for a stalker at all.

Having outsiders going into/through your chakras definitely isn't a good idea in this case as in my opinion it would further weaken the natural state of your protection through the chakra system, exacerbating your already irritated and compromised energies.

First way to go...
Doing it yourself:

A simple method is binding magic. This is binding someone from being capable of doing something anymore, and while it's not elaborate it is potent. This only takes care of him continuing to do this, not the damage already done. I can suggest you a way to go about that if you would like.

Another, sly method is to make him entirely disinterested in you. I would suggest a spell to make someone 'fall out of love/lust/infatuation' with you. Kind of like 'snapping him out of' the fixation and causing an emotional amnesia where he cannot even recall why he was doing this in the first place. It is quite possible.
This isn't the end-all of what must be done, it is only something that could give you an opportunity, even a single day where you don't feel his influence and in that day you're going to cleanse yourself of residuals, then erect powerful barriers and measures of protection.
As a continued offense to pair with the defense, you would want to repeat the anti-love spell often to continue to dissuade his presence, using it as an assault on his senses and making your very presence a searing thing to him to touch.

Another way would be to gain mental control over him, it is more involved as it entails you conceding to the psychic connection with persuasion and the lie that you welcome it, so that you can get close enough to intercept his attempts and destroy his ability to continue to connect to you from the inside. This is a more meticulous approach but with some situations 'giving in' can help with 'getting out', like a Chinese finger trap if you know what I am alluding to. That is about convincing someone they no longer need to use the force they are using, long enough for you to get the upper hand.

A final way that comes to mind begins with an intense cleansing that involves uprooting ties/bonds which were unwanted.
He already will have tethers made to you, which is why I don't feel 'just' protection will do much, because you're then only going to build a wall around an enemy who's already gotten inside so to speak.

For added power that is effortless, any of the above sort of methods I would recommend be done in the context of your personal cultural background, as in to look into the magical practices which exist unique to your ancestry because then the ancestors will be directly involved, and they are very powerful. It makes it so that not just one person is enacting the effort but hundreds or thousands on your side. If you choose the personal route and need help with methods or materials relevant to your ancestry, as long as you aren't uncomfortable with sharing your heritage here, I can potentially give suggestions as I have basic knowledge of magic from many cultures... Greek, Slavic, Scandinavian, African, English, etc.

If you have no personal experience or expertise when it comes to magic/mystical arts, you may also want to get the aid of someone who has a significant support around them and knows their craft well to supplement your efforts. With full disclosure to them of the efforts you have taken already so that help can be adequately applied.
CH has been recommended (contact CH support if you haven't), and I'd offer to directly involve myself but I don't want a case of too many cooks in the kitchen which would diminish your chances of success, so I am reinforcing the suggestion to contact CH.

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Second way to go...
Having an experienced practitioner do the work for you:

Now alternatively, you can purchase efforts to be done on your behalf but the key is again to apply what makes sense/in a way that makes sense for your situation. I am going to give a run-down of what makes sense to me if I were in your position and needing that outside assistance...

This service is to break ties, just break them and nothing else:
https://shop.creepyhollows.com/breaking ... urses.html

If you were to do that you'd next need to cleanse yourself of anything residual, maybe with something like this:
https://shop.creepyhollows.com/3-BODY-A ... RVICE.html

Because next you'd want to repair damage, which is conveniently included in the service suggested above.
Finally you'd want to safeguard yourself with various barriers of protection. And some good suggestions for protection have already been made earlier in this thread.

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Additional info to keep in mind that could affect the actions you take:

While you may not have a physical relationship or connection with this fellow of any significance that has led to what's going on now, you could have a soul tie/past life link/'karmic' thing going on which is contributing to the nuisance. If anything you do or have done in the range of the above seems like it's not really amounting to much change, you might want to have someone skilled with feeling out connections like that investigate the tie itself and what if anything linked you prior to this happenstance, and then THAT particular link you'd want to focus on breaking so that he can't find another way in or use that way in.
Something like Seidr, destiny-based magic which takes control of the future in relation to present or past, would be a most powerful form of dealing with that in my opinion but you may also look at practices of chronokinesis which can help you shift the bonds of time or alter them.

If none of any of this works, a more aggressive or in depth option may be needed, like a form of exorcism (he is trying to take possession of you in many ways if what you're saying is occurring in the way you think).
Undergoing a shamanic ritual to potently release your spirit from a certain state, and pass into a new one is another option here...what I mean by that is a ritual of passage where your previous state undergoes spiritual death, and so all that was locking onto it would therefore 'die with it' including this guy's fixation to you. You would undergo a spiritual transformation into a new stage of life which you could safeguard from any future attacks.
Oh, you may also petition a deity...having an immortal force in your corner is a remarkable aid. Creating a carefully worded pact with a deity should you truly be desperate for resolution is something that will have results.

But best not to rush ahead. Most importantly you want to be CONFIDENT in anything you do or choose have done on your behalf, you cannot go forward with the mentality that it is possible for him to maintain this for much longer. Mentality/perspective influences everything a lot more than we tend to realize.

There may be something I'm missing, but this is a decent start for understanding how to approach the situation for real development, and from a practical place.


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